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  • KTFOKING
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    Terence Crawford Dilemma

    Okay, so recently he's had plenty of fighters calling him out as he is one of the few top WWs without a fight lined up. Let's ignore the GRJ call out since that is nonsense. But every time a fighter calls him out, Arum says the demands are unrealistic or the fight is not possible right now. To be fair, they are also supposedly in negotiations for a Pacquiao showdown and if he is able to get that, then that's awesome. But that also seems unlikely as Pacquiao's team has come out and said there have been no negotiations.

    Thurman's team reached out to Arum regarding a Crawford showdown and Crawford's manager quickly shot it down saying HIS team needs to send Crawford an offer and not the other way around. That was an amusing statement considering the fight would be taking place on ESPN, the network Crawford fights at? Anyways, Crawford has already come out numerous of times and has said he's not taking a pay cut to fight during the pandemic and he wants what is in his contract. A fighter like Thurman who just made career high money against Pacquiao is going to want a good purse himself. So what exactly is the solution? Thurman, as I pointed out to in another thread has CONSISTENTLY done good ratings and is coming off a PPV that sold around 500k buys. If you are Top Rank, why not heavily pursue this fight and put it on PPV? After all, Spence vs DSG is happening in November and will be on PPV. Crawford vs Thurman is a fight that can sell well and may even get close to the 250-300k buys range. Even without a gate, that will be quite a bit of revenue generated.

    Brook is another name being mentioned as a potential opponent and Hearn has come out and said he will be pricey and will want a nice pay day.

    If Crawford can't get Pacquiao, then what exactly does TR do with him? It seems like one minute his team is saying no one wants to fight him and then when fighters do reach out to TR, they respond by saying the demands are unrealistic. Do you just put him on PPV and risk taking a loss in hopes it will make the Spence showdown in 2021 even bigger?
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    Originally posted by KTFOKING
    Okay, so recently he's had plenty of fighters calling him out as he is one of the few top WWs without a fight lined up. Let's ignore the GRJ call out since that is nonsense. But every time a fighter calls him out, Arum says the demands are unrealistic or the fight is not possible right now. To be fair, they are also supposedly in negotiations for a Pacquiao showdown and if he is able to get that, then that's awesome. But that also seems unlikely as Pacquiao's team has come out and said there have been no negotiations.

    Thurman's team reached out to Arum regarding a Crawford showdown and Crawford's manager quickly shot it down saying HIS team needs to send Crawford an offer and not the other way around. That was an amusing statement considering the fight would be taking place on ESPN, the network Crawford fights at? Anyways, Crawford has already come out numerous of times and has said he's not taking a pay cut to fight during the pandemic and he wants what is in his contract. A fighter like Thurman who just made career high money against Pacquiao is going to want a good purse himself. So what exactly is the solution? Thurman, as I pointed out to in another thread has CONSISTENTLY done good ratings and is coming off a PPV that sold around 500k buys. If you are Top Rank, why not heavily pursue this fight and put it on PPV? After all, Spence vs DSG is happening in November and will be on PPV. Crawford vs Thurman is a fight that can sell well and may even get close to the 250-300k buys range. Even without a gate, that will be quite a bit of revenue generated.

    Brook is another name being mentioned as a potential opponent and Hearn has come out and said he will be pricey and will want a nice pay day.

    If Crawford can't get Pacquiao, then what exactly does TR do with him? It seems like one minute his team is saying no one wants to fight him and then when fighters do reach out to TR, they respond by saying the demands are unrealistic. Do you just put him on PPV and risk taking a loss in hopes it will make the Spence showdown in 2021 even bigger?
    The problem with him fighting Thurman next is that would be the loser of a PPV getting another title shot rather than the winner. IMO this is a MAJOR problem boxing is facing because other combat sports, especially UFC, reward winning with a better fight. Fans appreciate that.

    Arum threw all that money at Crawford solely so Haymon wouldn't control WW. At this point, Bob is stuck because Haymon has plenty of WW's and JMW's to make desired fights and lock Crawford out.

    Crawford needs to think about doing what Floyd or Mikey did. Pay the money to get out of the TR deal and sign with PBC. Worked for Floyd but not Mikey IMO.

    If not buy out the contract and go to DAZN to try and make a fight at 160 with Canelo for a monster payday.

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      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      The problem with him fighting Thurman next is that would be the loser of a PPV getting another title shot rather than the winner. IMO this is a MAJOR problem boxing is facing because other combat sports, especially UFC, reward winning with a better fight. Fans appreciate that.

      Arum threw all that money at Crawford solely so Haymon wouldn't control WW. At this point, Bob is stuck because Haymon has plenty of WW's and JMW's to make desired fights and lock Crawford out.

      Crawford needs to think about doing what Floyd or Mikey did. Pay the money to get out of the TR deal and sign with PBC. Worked for Floyd but not Mikey IMO.

      If not buy out the contract and go to DAZN to try and make a fight at 160 with Canelo for a monster payday.
      I don't think there is a problem with someone losing and challenging for a title in their next fight. Thurman is a quality fighter. Is he great or what he once was before his injuries? No, but he still carries a name and it's not like he got embarrassed by Pacquiao or anything. This fight will sell well on PPV unlike Lomachenko vs Lopez. Crawford seems happy at TR so no need for him to sign elsewhere. But he can try to force Bob's hand to get this fight on PPV.

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        As someone suggested, Crawford is black GGG. he will beat all the bums he can get under Top rank, when he gets old, like 35 -36, he will get a payday fighting one of PBC boys and lose on cards.

        Bob still has old Collazo, Bes***** and others.
        Last edited by JakeTheBoxer; 08-18-2020, 02:04 PM.

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          Crawford is afraid to lose to Brook, Porter or Thurman before he gets his shot at unifying. That's what it looks like is happening to me.

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            #6
            Originally posted by KTFOKING
            I don't think there is a problem with someone losing and challenging for a title in their next fight. Thurman is a quality fighter. Is he great or what he once was before his injuries? No, but he still carries a name and it's not like he got embarrassed by Pacquiao or anything. This fight will sell well on PPV unlike Lomachenko vs Lopez. Crawford seems happy at TR so no need for him to sign elsewhere. But he can try to force Bob's hand to get this fight on PPV.
            The problem is a more deserving challenger gets passed over. Winning should be rewarded. As a fan, if Thurman loses to Manny like that, then Crawford should be fighting Manny next or the mando, not Thurman, unless Thurman falls into the mando spot.

            I agree with you it will sell and I agree Thurman is still a legitimate boxer.

            Crawford surely likes the money but I wonder how frustrated he is not being able to get fights with the top ww's?

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              #7
              Originally posted by KTFOKING
              I don't think there is a problem with someone losing and challenging for a title in their next fight. Thurman is a quality fighter. Is he great or what he once was before his injuries? No, but he still carries a name and it's not like he got embarrassed by Pacquiao or anything. This fight will sell well on PPV unlike Lomachenko vs Lopez. Crawford seems happy at TR so no need for him to sign elsewhere. But he can try to force Bob's hand to get this fight on PPV.
              I never got into the Crawford backlash, actually I always defended him. He's got some good options now if the Manny fight doesn't happen that he needs to take. I think he really is an amazing fighter but Bomac and Bob are making him look really bad.

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                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                The problem with him fighting Thurman next is that would be the loser of a PPV getting another title shot rather than the winner. IMO this is a MAJOR problem boxing is facing because other combat sports, especially UFC, reward winning with a better fight. Fans appreciate that.
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                Crawford sent a contract to Danny Garcia coming off of his loss to Shawn Porter. Kieth Thurman coming off a loss is not the problem. Thurman being a threat is the problem

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Lonelystoner
                  Crawford sent a contract to Danny Garcia coming off of his loss to Shawn Porter. Kieth Thurman coming off a loss is not the problem. Thurman being a threat is the problem
                  Bomac once upon did say circa 2017-2018, that the hardest champion to prepare against was Thurman. He didn't hesitate. Didn't even mention Spence. Thurman was the hardest to prepare against for Crawford.

                  Thurman got Bomac go on a nervous rant on FB right now tryna swerve the Thurman fight as much as possible. And the reason why Crawford gone quiet since Keith called him out.

                  I thought it was Bud who gunna call Thurman's bluff but it was the other way around

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                  • Lonelystoner
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                    Crawford is the most sophisticated ducker in boxing. He calls everyone out to get clout with no real intentions of fighting them. He's playing the 'i'll fight anyone' role while his manager and promoters jobs are to downplay any dangerous fight that comes his way if it's doesn't come with a big payday. This guy is living off of what he accomplished 3 years ago but his team wants to forget where thurman was 3 years ago to downplay thurmans credibility. F**k Crawford and any boxing fan who loves him. You're doing nothing but diluting the sport and praising these fighters for maxing out their accomplishments while at the same time putting in minimal effort when it comes to giving the fans what they want. When Crawford retires with no good names on his resume I hope y'all enjoy being the ones who made excuses for him for 6 years straight.

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