Rewatched Wallin -Fury

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he will get stripped if he does that and even if he tries to fight wilder ....he then has Whyte which will not happen till April at least which then means we won’t see the Joshua fight till the end of next year and I don’t think fury is mentally up for that wait..he has already said it and believe he wants the 2 Joshua fights next year because he knows that his golden goose egg.
What wrong now with fury saying to wilder let’s fight in October and just do a minimum crowd with B.T box office and especially....do it here if the USA can not accommodate it.
It’s the wilder fight that is keeping the world title fights in limbo at the moment.

The Whyte fight vs Fury is scheduled late August ,if Wilder happens this year it leaves room for undisputed in between all this jargon as long as Usyk takes side step money . I don’t believe Whyte can stop an undisputed if he’s given a date for his own title shot ?

If we could get a short cut it would rely on a Povetkin win because then Usyk could be made earlier and Fury and AJ are free for mid summer .

[The plunger man]

The Whyte fight vs Fury is scheduled late August ,if Wilder happens this year it leaves room for undisputed in between all this jargon as long as Usyk takes side step money . I don’t believe Whyte can stop an undisputed if he’s given a date for his own title shot ?

If we could get a short cut it would rely on a Povetkin win because then Usyk could be made earlier and Fury and AJ are free for mid summer .

we will not get the Joshua vs fury fight In between the wilder and Whyte fight....it just won’t happen it will be a 2 fight deal one after the other and it’s mega fight so promotion will be far more than just a random fight....it will be sky , dazn , top rank , espn all vying for top billing plus your have countries bidding for this from all over the world.
Not a chance you see a Joshua fury fight in between the wilder and fury fights for fury

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we will not get the Joshua vs fury fight In between the wilder and Whyte fight....it just won’t happen it will be a 2 fight deal one after the other and it’s mega fight so promotion will be far more than just a random fight....it will be sky , dazn , top rank , espn all vying for top billing plus your have countries bidding for this from all over the world.
Not a chance you see a Joshua fury fight in between the wilder and fury fights for fury

3.8 Special Bout Sanction. Under special circumstances, such as a match involving an elite contender, a unification bout, or other match that the WBC determines in its sole discretion would be in the best interests of boxing, the WBC may order and/or sanction such bout as either a voluntary or mandatory defense, and may order that such special bout take precedence over and occur prior to any previously designated mandatory defense.

Under the circumstances set forth in the preceding paragraph, any previously-designated mandatory challenge may be ordered by the WBC: (i) to occur immediately after the special bout with no intervening bout, (ii) to be rescheduled to occur after one or more voluntary bouts, or (ii) postponed by the WBC until such time as the champion is required to defend against his next mandatory challenger, including any extensions that may be granted by the WBC in accordance with these Rules and Regulations.

AJ and Fury could agree to 3 fights it wouldn’t mean it would be immediate rematches look how long Wilder and Furys stretched this out and they haven’t even fought 3 times yet even with the delay not included they fought in between their contract . If one were to lose it’s then void of any commitment in the contracts agreed to but the fight is definitely possible with WBC guidelines I posted above the parties involved would just have to comply with the agreed to terms they come up with . Wilder wasn’t in my equation factoring in he will lose this year going on the WBC presidents and Team Furys comments it’s taking place this year ,only Arum seems to be out in left field ?

What I posted here shows a special bout which is undisputed would rank over Whytes position or Povetkins should he win ,wheather the mandatory gets a shot at thae undisputed winner immediately is I guess the WBC discrection ? Either way looks like AJ and Fury could fill in a spot if they both fight this year and win leaving Usyk the sole obstacle.

[The plunger man]

3.8 Special Bout Sanction. Under special circumstances, such as a match involving an elite contender, a unification bout, or other match that the WBC determines in its sole discretion would be in the best interests of boxing, the WBC may order and/or sanction such bout as either a voluntary or mandatory defense, and may order that such special bout take precedence over and occur prior to any previously designated mandatory defense.

Under the circumstances set forth in the preceding paragraph, any previously-designated mandatory challenge may be ordered by the WBC: (i) to occur immediately after the special bout with no intervening bout, (ii) to be rescheduled to occur after one or more voluntary bouts, or (ii) postponed by the WBC until such time as the champion is required to defend against his next mandatory challenger, including any extensions that may be granted by the WBC in accordance with these Rules and Regulations.

AJ and Fury could agree to 3 fights it wouldn’t mean it would be immediate rematches look how long Wilder and Furys stretched this out and they haven’t even fought 3 times yet even with the delay not included they fought in between their contract . If one were to lose it’s then void of any commitment in the contracts agreed to but the fight is definitely possible with WBC guidelines I posted above the parties involved would just have to comply with the agreed to terms they come up with . Wilder wasn’t in my equation factoring in he will lose this year going on the WBC presidents and Team Furys comments it’s taking place this year ,only Arum seems to be out in left field ?

What I posted here shows a special bout which is undisputed would rank over Whytes position or Povetkins should he win ,wheather the mandatory gets a shot at thae undisputed winner immediately is I guess the WBC discrection ? Either way looks like AJ and Fury could fill in a spot if they both fight this year and win leaving Usyk the sole obstacle.

no as I said the fury
Vs Joshua fight will be a 2 fight deal with one after the another....there is no way they will split up the 2 fight deal because if one loses its eacatky situation we have now with the wilder fight being main issue on why the Joshua vs fury fight is still over a year away.
I bet you anything you want the Joshua vs fury fight will not come in between the wilder and Whyte fights for fury....not a chance

[Toffee]

Fury won't fight Whyte. He'd probably vacate rather than fight for half of a smaller purse against a guy who is a bit of a threat.

Slim chance he'll be made a Franchise Champion after he beats Wilder again. Either way he'll still be lineal.

Who are these people who debate the next 2 or 3 fights for a boxer? Have you just started following the sport? It won't happen like that - it's never the time when all the fights come together.

Money makes fights. And right now, you'll get the fights that the purses deserve.

[The plunger man]

Fury won't fight Whyte. He'd probably vacate rather than fight for half of a smaller purse against a guy who is a bit of a threat.

Slim chance he'll be made a Franchise Champion after he beats Wilder again. Either way he'll still be lineal.

Who are these people who debate the next 2 or 3 fights for a boxer? Have you just started following the sport? It won't happen like that - it's never the time when all the fights come together.

Money makes fights. And right now, you'll get the fights that the purses deserve.

it would not surprise me that fury gives up his belt if has to face both wilder and whyte before his 2 fight deal with Joshua ...the money will dictate over his desire to keep his belt

[No Losses]

I haven't rewtached it since I saw it live but the cuts Fury sustained were such that he should have been withdrawn and Wallin declared the winner since a punch caused it.

If Wallin suffered the exact same cuts he would have been out of there immediately and so what we saw was favouritism and the money machine on full power behind Fury.

The Fury that prepared for the Wilder rematch would destroy Wallin.

[Clegg]

Fury has been massively over hyped from a couple of fights. If you look at his overall record and within that the fights he has had - you could put a strong case why he is no where near rank1. The first chisora fight, Cunningham and Wallin are some of many examples.

Having said that, he did make klitschko look poor, got up from a wilder punch and KO’d him the following fight in fairly comfortable fashion - so he is no mug at all either.

People quickly hype up or write off fighters after a good or bad performance, just look at the criticism wilder gets on here - if he KO’s fury next time around the everything swings back around.

Agree that opinion/hype swings around too much based upon latest performance, but you're going too far in the other direction to say the first Chisora fight proves anything about how good Fury is now or where he should be ranked. He has the best 2 wins in the divison of the past decade, surely everyone rates him as the clear #1

[JakeTheBoxer]

I haven't rewtached it since I saw it live but the cuts Fury sustained were such that he should have been withdrawn and Wallin declared the winner since a punch caused it.

If Wallin suffered the exact same cuts he would have been out of there immediately and so what we saw was favouritism and the money machine on full power behind Fury.

The Fury that prepared for the Wilder rematch would destroy Wallin.

That is what I am talking about. Fury was dominant man in that fight regardless the cut. That`s why it wasn`t stopped.

[Kezzer]

Agree that opinion/hype swings around too much based upon latest performance, but you're going too far in the other direction to say the first Chisora fight proves anything about how good Fury is now or where he should be ranked. He has the best 2 wins in the divison of the past decade, surely everyone rates him as the clear #1

No, not everyone rates him as a clear #1. Infact majority of pundits who do rate him as #1 don’t make it me it a clear gap at all , Joshua record overall is far superior and therefore they need to match up.

Which two fights do you think give him the best two wins? I mean he has only fought Klitschko and wilder so presume you are referring to those two?

Some may consider those the best but I don’t, in my opinion Klitschko was in far better shape - or at least performed far better - against AJ.

Wilder is another I’ve never really rated as highly as many on here, is he any better than a Parker, Povetkin, Whyte? At the moment he could be, but we still don’t know.