Comments Thread For: Lomachenko-Lopez - Deal Reached For October, Team Lopez is Pumped

[R-Hand Southpaw]

It isn’t a hypothetical. He actually did this.

Here is what I am saying- I don’t think it is acceptable to accept a franchise title that removes the obligation to defend against the mandatory challenger.

This is especially egregious when the challenger avoided is a low reward, high risk fight.

I think most boxing fans agree.

The point of this thread -you and others did agree with my opinion above when Canelo was awarded the franchise/emeritus title. Then Loma did it there wasn’t criticism from the same people.

Let’s discuss why this difference occurs.

Why did that difference occur?

Hmm. Because the WBC rolled out a brand new title JUST for Canelo called the WBC franchise title.

At the time it wasn't award to anyone else but Canelo and soon became a mockery. How many months in betwen Dunn?

Everyone in boxing KNOWS the WBC is corrupt and in bed with Canelo. No one in their right mind thought this title was deserved to be made or that Canelo deserved it.

And to pretend there wasn't critics? Please. Another LIE. Like I've been asking you, show proof what you say is true.

You've yet to do that huh? How many people celebrated this? ZERO

Seriously. Lomadeux says its bull**** and I'm saying its bull**** and in your little mind were two of the biggest Loma lovers on the ****ing planet.

So why do you keep repeating those lies? Its because you have an agenda.

Honestly even your flawed reasoning is beyond pathetic. You always want a way to cop out so you can pretend you didn't say what you meant.

Example.

You use the word avoid instead of duck but when you add context it means the exact same thing. You think you're really slick dont you?

Lomachenko avoided Devin Haney by giving up his WBC belt.

Lomachenko ducked Devin Haney by giving up his WBC belt.

Tank Davis avoided Lomachenko.

Tank Davis ducked Lomachenko.

Hmm. Add some more context. You think Lomachenko beats Tank easy and that Tank is waiting him out becauze he's not ready. You also think Tank is the A side lmfao.

But why is your reasoning different for Lomachenko vs Haney?

Its because it fits your agenda.

No. Lomachenko is avoiding Devin Haney. BUT Devin Haney has got time. He doesn't need Lomachenko.

Who's playing it both ways? And when Lomachenko realizes he needs to fight Devin Haney watch the excuses roll.

Cuz Lomachenko would wait out a high risk/low reward so he can decline and Haney can get better right?

Is Lomachenko also "avoiding " Rolando Romero too? Because I'm pretty sure he just became his mandatory. After Haney who's the next boogeyman? Berchelt!? Man you have to reach so bad.

You couldnt even put together a time table but its impossible that Berchelt didn't want Loma. It's only true that Loma didn't want Berchelt. Loma was the one doing the avoiding. Right? Lmfao!

Lmfao. You really want to make my point? Lets talk GGG vs Canelo.

Did Canelo duck/avoid GGG.

Seriously. Dont even bother to answer Big Dunn. Your hypocrisy shows so much. Honestly you do really have no shame.

Whatever works for you in the moment to further your agenda right?

[The Big Dunn]

Why did that difference occur?

Hmm. Because the WBC rolled out a brand new title JUST for Canelo called the WBC franchise title.

At the time it wasn't award to anyone else but Canelo and soon became a mockery. How many months in betwen Dunn?

Everyone in boxing KNOWS the WBC is corrupt and in bed with Canelo. No one in their right mind thought this title was deserved to be made or that Canelo deserved it.

And to pretend there wasn't critics? Please. Another LIE. Like I've been asking you, show proof what you say is true.

You've yet to do that huh? How many people celebrated this? ZERO

Seriously. Lomadeux says its bull**** and I'm saying its bull**** and in your little mind were two of the biggest Loma lovers on the ****ing planet.

So why do you keep repeating those lies? Its because you have an agenda.

Honestly even your flawed reasoning is beyond pathetic. You always want a way to cop out so you can pretend you didn't say what you meant.

Example.

You use the word avoid instead of duck but when you add context it means the exact same thing. You think you're really slick dont you?

Lomachenko avoided Devin Haney by giving up his WBC belt.

Lomachenko ducked Devin Haney by giving up his WBC belt.

Tank Davis avoided Lomachenko.

Tank Davis ducked Lomachenko.

Hmm. Add some more context. You think Lomachenko beats Tank easy and that Tank is waiting him out becauze he's not ready. You also think Tank is the A side lmfao.

But why is your reasoning different for Lomachenko vs Haney?

Its because it fits your agenda.

No. Lomachenko is avoiding Devin Haney. BUT Devin Haney has got time. He doesn't need Lomachenko.

Who's playing it both ways? And when Lomachenko realizes he needs to fight Devin Haney watch the excuses roll.

Cuz Lomachenko would wait out a high risk/low reward so he can decline and Haney can get better right?

Is Lomachenko also "avoiding " Rolando Romero too? Because I'm pretty sure he just became his mandatory. After Haney who's the next boogeyman? Berchelt!? Man you have to reach so bad.

You couldnt even put together a time table but its impossible that Berchelt didn't want Loma. It's only true that Loma didn't want Berchelt. Loma was the one doing the avoiding. Right? Lmfao!

Lmfao. You really want to make my point? Lets talk GGG vs Canelo.

Did Canelo duck/avoid GGG.

Seriously. Dont even bother to answer Big Dunn. Your hypocrisy shows so much. Honestly you do really have no shame.

Whatever works for you in the moment to further your agenda right?

The time in between is irrelevant. Loma accepted the franchise title then lied about not knowing. I never posted there wasn't ANY critics. The thread is about why posters criticized Canelo and not Loma. I gave my opinion why.

You've crated some delusional, false reality where you think I posted or meant no one criticized the move when Loma did it. I can't answer anything connected to your delusional false realities and warped interpretations.

Avoided and ducked mean the same thing to imbeciles with an agenda like yourself. In fact its your agenda-the false belief that every black poster is against Loma, that is causing you get so worked up.

I posted several times while avoided Berchelt at 130, the plan is to fight him at 135. I also posted my belief is he would fight Haney. Ducked would be when his career is over if he never fought either man. Avoided means he delayed the fights until after he made the big money fights, a point I explained. Maybe had I posted delayed fighting both you'd not have thrown a hissy fit.

You are more upset with me for posting about what happened then you are Loma for doing it. That is the real problem here. Had he not done it, this thread wouldn't have been made and I'd have not commented. Direct your anger in the proper direction.

Your points about boogeyman are childish. I never claimed Haney would beat him. If you feel it was Berchelt that avoided Loma, make that point. I explained, in logical boxing terms, why I believe he avoided them. Note that I didn't post either Haney or Berchelt beats Loma.

He didn't drop a belt to not fight Romero so no one is going to frame it as avoiding him. Does that really need to be explained to you.

You keep claiming an agenda, but each time I post that there is no anti black poster deep state coup against Loma. you will not respond to those posts. There is no plot, scheme, or agenda against Loma. if there is, I am not part of it.

what agenda do I have against Loma?

[Realdeal123]

Shut the F... off guy

Hey you guys, just shut the F... offf plz

[Smash]

Davis beats Loma up, literally, within 10 rounds.

maybe u should contact davis and tell him this to give him some confidence

this fight should already have happened and hint hint it wasnt lomas fault!

[Lomadeaux]

As do I. Given you feel this way, I can't understand why you responded to my post with such anger and vitriol to my responses in this thread. I was one who killed both Canelo and Loma equally for the move.

I get why he did it as well. Happens in boxing all the time. Top guys delay the "high risk, low reward" fight until after they've had the more winnable big money fight. I don't know why anyone would expect Loma to operate differently given he is a top boxer, many would argue the top p4p in the world.

No ones angry. I'm telling you that you'd get laughed out of a gym. Loma doesn't give a **** about that stuff. He just wants to fight the champions. Haney wasn't a champion... it's pretty damn simple to understand.

Loma hasn't ducked anybody... You sound silly.

[The Big Dunn]

No ones angry. I'm telling you that you'd get laughed out of a gym. Loma doesn't give a **** about that stuff. He just wants to fight the champions. Haney wasn't a champion... it's pretty damn simple to understand.

Loma hasn't ducked anybody... You sound silly.

Every fighter wants to fight champions and make the big money. However, there are requirements when you win a championship. One is that you defend against the #1 contender. That is why that challenger is called the mandatory-the rules mandate it.

Loma avoided fighting him by taking the franchise championship. Is what it is.

[Lomadeaux]

Every fighter wants to fight champions and make the big money. However, there are requirements when you win a championship. One is that you defend against the #1 contender. That is why that challenger is called the mandatory-the rules mandate it.

Loma avoided fighting him by taking the franchise championship. Is what it is.

Okay, Loma avoided Haney... The same way I avoid walking in a puddle in the middle of the street.

[theface07]

Wilder doesn’t come close to the talent Lopez has
Lopez , imo , will be alright even if he loses
His ego is to big and will come back stronger
This will take time but people will convince him that Loma is great boxer , so losing to him will be ok
I think him and his old man made a cheque they can’t cash and reality slowly but surely is settling in
He is literally against the wall , the only thing he can say now and still criticized is he can’t make weight and if that happens I honestly think Loma won’t fight him

You missed my point entirely. The problem IS Lopez's ego. He thinks he's the best in the world right now but hasn't beaten anybody to prove that. His win against Commey was very impressive but Loma and Commey are miles apart.
Wilder had the same problem. Huge ego and not realistic or rational in his opinion of himself or his opponents. When he lost to Fury, his ego couldn't handle it since he had himself built up to be the greatest of all time by beating B and C level fights. That's why all the excuses started to come out. There's no way Wilder could acknowledge that he got beat because he doesn't have elite level skills. It had to be something else. Fury had to be cheating or it was his costume, etc etc.
I don't think Lopez's delusion and narcissism is at the level of Wilder's but it's not far off. I agree Lopez is more skilled than Wilder but that's not has nothing to do with why I think a brutal loss to Loma may not make Lopez better. It's the out of control ego.
I'm actually a fan of his in the ring, he is an exciting star on the rise. Hopefully he is able to rebound if he does get beat down by Loma or totally schooled.

[theface07]

Look at who draws more fans to the arena. Never claimed Tank has done more than Loma as a pro. Also didn’t compare resumes in any way.

Two things can be true at the same time. Loma does fight high level fights. No question. He also didn’t fight Berchelt at 130 and took the emeritus thing to delay the mando he had coming up against Haney.

As I keep repeating you can’t have it both ways.

You guys are killing tank for not fighting Loma because that is the best fight that can be made and instead he fights bums. Ok I get that. I have done that as well, a point that gets list here.

Then you say it’s ok for Loma to not fight the best fights but it’s ok because he fights a solid resume.

You guys are calling me out because I am holding Loma to the same “ must fight the best” as you guys are holding Tank.

Of note, one of Loma’s fights was against a guy Tank had already knocked out.

Yes that's true but styles make fights. How many times do we have to go over that? Based on that logic, and I will go back to it time and time again if I have to, Foreman demolished Frazer and Norton who Ali had trouble with so Foreman should've demolished Ali right? Every fight is unique and every matchup is unique. It's not as simple as saying fighter A beat fighter C better than fighter B so fighter A will beat fighter B.
Also, I never criticized Tank for not fighting Loma yet. All I'm saying is if he fights him when he's 40 he won't get credit for it and rightfully so. I think he's moving at a good pace to be honest. Hopefully he stays disciplined so he can reach his potential. I like Tank but his last performance was trash. He needs to look much better against Leo and I'd be surprised if he didn't.

[Curt Henning]

Okay, Loma avoided Haney... The same way I avoid walking in a puddle in the middle of the street.

so you dont step in it and potentially ruin or get your nice shoes/sneakers wet and dirty and maybe get your socks wet too?

makes sense....if you equate that to boxing terms you are avoiding a potential mess...ive stepped in puddles on my way to work...its not a fun start to the morning