Comments Thread For: Lomachenko-Lopez - Deal Reached For October, Team Lopez is Pumped

[The Big Dunn]

Lmaooooo.

Your first premise is severely flawed. Teo is a draw?

Did you prove that? Nope! Is Teo a bigger draw than Lomachenko? Nope! The fight isn't in New York so how can he draw that New York crowd? Nope! Why do you post some numbers to prove your point instead if your imagination huh?

So youre already lying to try and justify your argument. Nice start.

And as you think money actually matters to Lomachenko feel free to point out any time in his short career where the amount of money he has made has ever mattered to him.

THATS RIGHT. Another no. Does money matter to Lomachenko? NOPE!

So let's see how good you've proved your argument. Not doing very good are you?

You haven't proved that Teo is a draw. You also havent proved that money matters to Lomachenko so saying hell make less doesnt matter because he, and myself don't care.

The only person who cares about the money is Teo. Funny how youre not using that argument against him huh? Is it because it doesnt support your agenda?

Which you haven't proved at all he deserves. Lets ask. How much did Richard Commey make vs Teofimo Lopez.

Take a good guess.

Nah. Ill spill it. 750k for a fight Pre-Covid and he was a champion too wasnt he? Did I see you complaining?

You really do have no shame do you? Quit playing Big dunn. Weve played this game and I've played this game with all your friends all week.

And you haven't said anything in particular right at this moment but come on, was I born yesterday?

I know who you are.

Why does that statement bother you so much? I did prove Teo was a draw. I pointed out to you that Loma's previous fight in NYC was the Theatre in MSG. That seats 5800 people. This fight was slated to the main arena in MSG, which seats 21k. Clearly this opponent brings something that Bob believes he can sell another 15k seats.

While I understand your point that the fight is no longer in NYC and no longer in front of a live audience, and that fact lessens Teo's impact, I responded to that by pointing out my discussion with KTFOKING that the fight itself was bigger than both fighters.

Those reasons combined were why I felt Teo deserved a little more, but not more than a 63/37 split in favor of Loma.

I didn't make any statements about Loma caring about money. My point about him not being able to make the same money fighting a lesser name than Teo is just a financial reality. It wasn't some kind of Loma diss. I think the real problem here is you take any criticism about Loma personally.

I didn't complain then and I didn't complain now. A thread was made about Teo asking for more. I read it, and gave my opinion that I felt IMO he deserved more. I gave my reasons why.

You are suggesting that I am saying this out of the blue because Loma is white or something. If this is the case that is just not rational. Every black person that points out something negative about Loma is not a racist that hates to see him do well.

Posting you've been "playing this game all week with your friends" tells me you just respond angrily to every poster you think is black that posts something negative about Loma. You perceive some plot or agenda against him. while I think that bizarre and irrational, I can assure you I am not part of any plot, scheme or agenda against Loma because he is white or non American.

[The Big Dunn]

Two things.

When did Berchelt become a champion and who did he face at 130 and what was Lomachenko doing?

Hmm.

And lets prove our points with data.

Go find the numbers for Teos last 5 fights and ill do the same for Lomachenko.

We can compare audience and the amount of money they made.

You want to do that or too hard for you?

Lmfao. Come on Big dunn. Gonna be Big scared?

Berchelt became champion Jan 2017. Loma won the JLW title in June 2016. Loma fought Sosa, Rigo and Marriaga.

Why do you keep trying to make this about me saying Teo is a bigger draw than Loma when I didn't post that? You quoted the post and saw I didn't say that, yet you keep trying to rope me into that discussion. Besides, I already told you why I think Teo was a draw. I remind you Teo's fight against Commey was the Crawford undercard.

I also know Loma made more. He is contractually obligated to make more. Again, for this fight I suggested Loma make a 63/37 or 65/35 split. Loma getting $3.25 mil and Teo $1.5 mill means Teo is getting about 32%, which is just about what I suggested. I am not really sure why you are asking me to do all that.

[Curt Henning]

Berchelt became champion Jan 2017. Loma won the JLW title in June 2016. Loma fought Sosa, Rigo and Marriaga.

Why do you keep trying to make this about me saying Teo is a bigger draw than Loma when I didn't post that? You quoted the post and saw I didn't say that, yet you keep trying to rope me into that discussion. Besides, I already told you why I think Teo was a draw. I remind you Teo's fight against Commey was the Crawford undercard.

I also know Loma made more. He is contractually obligated to make more. Again, for this fight I suggested Loma make a 63/37 or 65/35 split. Loma getting $3.25 mil and Teo $1.5 mill means Teo is getting about 32%, which is just about what I suggested. I am not really sure why you are asking me to do all that.

dude...save your time or divert your energy somewhere useful...ive exchanged posts with that "guy"...he moves goalposts and says some outrageous stuff...hes delusional and likely has a mental disorder

during a "debate" about golovkin he actually said that szeremata was ranked higher than andrade...like legit, verbatim, quote.....and he was dead serious....

[R-Hand Southpaw]

Berchelt became champion Jan 2017. Loma won the JLW title in June 2016. Loma fought Sosa, Rigo and Marriaga.

Why do you keep trying to make this about me saying Teo is a bigger draw than Loma when I didn't post that? You quoted the post and saw I didn't say that, yet you keep trying to rope me into that discussion. Besides, I already told you why I think Teo was a draw. I remind you Teo's fight against Commey was the Crawford undercard.

I also know Loma made more. He is contractually obligated to make more. Again, for this fight I suggested Loma make a 63/37 or 65/35 split. Loma getting $3.25 mil and Teo $1.5 mill means Teo is getting about 32%, which is just about what I suggested. I am not really sure why you are asking me to do all that.

Read back what you wrote to me and please explain how your opinion and agenda are proof. Did you provide anything or substance? NOPE!

You said Teo is a draw. You can't even prove THAT.

Dude. Ive been here for a couple years already and I know exactly who you are and what your agenda is.

Sitting here and playing politics with me isn't fooling anyone especially those guys who have been here just as long or longer than myself. Who are you trying to fool?

And of course you can't present any numbers. The facts don't match your opinion but you feel so entitled to it.

What kind of person still believes their opinion is right despite the facts that prove its not?

and with Berchelt. Who did Berchelt fight when Loma was fighting Sosa, Marriaga, and Rigo?

Hmm. You listed Lomachenkos opponents but not Berchelts. Why is that huh?

Again. It doesn't support your agenda does it? It doesnt help your argument to show Berchelt was still fighting nobodies.

There was like a 6 month window where the fight could have happened but wasn't Berchelt also injured the back half of 2017 too?

And Lomachenkos last fight was in December.

But no. Lomachenko ducked Berchelt lmfao. No chance it was the other way around huh?

Too funny. Its fun to watch you walk in circles.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

dude...save your time or divert your energy somewhere useful...ive exchanged posts with that "guy"...he moves goalposts and says some outrageous stuff...hes delusional and likely has a mental disorder

during a "debate" about golovkin he actually said that szeremata was ranked higher than andrade...like legit, verbatim, quote.....and he was dead serious....

By the IBF

But nah. Guys like you love to leave out context.

Too ****ing funny.

But whatever fits your agenda right. Didn't you say something like....champions aren't rated by other boxing commissions.

That means Andrade holds no ranking with the IBF.

Which is true. Therefore who is ranked above who? Come on Curt.

Is Andrade rankes higher than Szmerta by the IBF?

Yes or no.

Let's do some mental gymnastics

[R-Hand Southpaw]

dude...save your time or divert your energy somewhere useful...ive exchanged posts with that "guy"...he moves goalposts and says some outrageous stuff...hes delusional and likely has a mental disorder

during a "debate" about golovkin he actually said that szeremata was ranked higher than andrade...like legit, verbatim, quote.....and he was dead serious....

Let me help you out.

Go to Google

It's www.google.com

Don't type in the it's part.

Type in the search box, IBF middleweight current rankings.

See Szmertata at #1

Where's Andrande?

That's right. Unranked.

Curt. Is someone unranked ranked higher or lower than someone who is ranked.

Hmm. Thats a really hard question to answer isnt it?

Hmm. Use that big brain of yours to figure that out. Or do you need me to tell you again?

[Lomadeaux]

Once again you avoid the topic at hand. You have no clue what people in the gym would say.

Are you man enough to talk about what actually happened? No matter what you post or how much you avoid the facts, Loma chose not to fight Berchelt at 130 and chose to accept the franchise belt rather than defend against Haney.

Whether I'm black, your white, Loma is white, Loma is purple, no matter what color Loma is, his actions are his actions.

Why are you so afraid to talk about what actually happened?

You don’t know my race. Why are you bringing up race?

Why is the best fighter on the planet going to want to fight some easy fight when he wants to unify a division?

He’d already of fought and beat Lopez in April had it not been for Covid.

I know exactly that people in the gym would say because I’m in there everyday. Unlike you, I know what a fighter thinks... lmao.

[The Big Dunn]

Read back what you wrote to me and please explain how your opinion and agenda are proof. Did you provide anything or substance? NOPE!

You said Teo is a draw. You can't even prove THAT.

Dude. Ive been here for a couple years already and I know exactly who you are and what your agenda is.

Sitting here and playing politics with me isn't fooling anyone especially those guys who have been here just as long or longer than myself. Who are you trying to fool?

And of course you can't present any numbers. The facts don't match your opinion but you feel so entitled to it.

What kind of person still believes their opinion is right despite the facts that prove its not?

and with Berchelt. Who did Berchelt fight when Loma was fighting Sosa, Marriaga, and Rigo?

Hmm. You listed Lomachenkos opponents but not Berchelts. Why is that huh?

Again. It doesn't support your agenda does it? It doesnt help your argument to show Berchelt was still fighting nobodies.

There was like a 6 month window where the fight could have happened but wasn't Berchelt also injured the back half of 2017 too?

And Lomachenkos last fight was in December.

But no. Lomachenko ducked Berchelt lmfao. No chance it was the other way around huh?

Too funny. Its fun to watch you walk in circles.

I told you why i have my opinion. You keep ignoring it. If you don’t think the change in venue from a 5800 seat arena to a 21k seat arena indicates Teo is a draw fine.

You can post any number you wish. If Teo wasn’t a draw, there wouldn’t be the need to fight ina 21k arena. If Loma was the draw, he’d have fought in the main arena in his previous fight. The reason he was in the theatre is because when he was in the main arena against linares it didn’t sell out.

You didn’t ask me who Berchelt fought. You asked about Loma and I answered. Yet you claim I didn’t answer as part of some agenda against Loma. That is crazy.


Yes there was a window to fight, they didn’t fight. So my saying he avoided him is a fact. Now maybe you think I should give him the benefit of the doubt. Just day that.

Instead, you make it about some all black plot against Loma. That is insanity.

Never did I claim or imply Loma ducked Berchelt. Unfortunately, your immaturity, combined with perception that there is an anti black movement against loma , makes you interpret what I said in terms of ducking.

If you’ve been around so much as you claim (2017 really) then you know I don’t talk in terms of ducking.

Loma is the a side over Berchelt as he is Haney. He chooses when they fight, hence the onus is on him. Same as you putting the onus on Tank to fight Loma.

This whole back and forth is rooted in your warped perception that there is a plot, agenda, scheme or whatever against Loma.

There is no deep state black poster coup against Loma so you can calm down. He is going to get criticized like every other fighter.

[The Big Dunn]

You don’t know my race. Why are you bringing up race?

Why is the best fighter on the planet going to want to fight some easy fight when he wants to unify a division?

He’d already of fought and beat Lopez in April had it not been for Covid.

I know exactly that people in the gym would say because I’m in there everyday. Unlike you, I know what a fighter thinks... lmao.

Dude read the sentence. I’m making a point , not necessarily saying you’re white. Just like I know Loma isn’t purple.

Because Haney isn’t easy and any knowledgeable fan knows this. Haney is taller, longer reach, bigger, faster, And as or more athletic. It would be a great style matchup. It’s the classic “ high risk, low reward” fight.

Should Loma lose that would affect the Teo payday and possibly the tank fight down the road.

No matter what he wants to do, he swerved Haney, to use shoulderoll’s word. Just admit it and we can move on.

You are justifying it and I am not. Is that really a big deal? If you weren’t a Loma fan you wouldn’t be justifying it.

If you know what a fighter thinks then you know a fighter and his management want to make as much as possible before a tough fight.

[Lomadeaux]

Dude read the sentence. I’m making a point , not necessarily saying you’re white. Just like I know Loma isn’t purple.

Because Haney isn’t easy and any knowledgeable fan knows this. Haney is taller, longer reach, bigger, faster, And as or more athletic. It would be a great style matchup. It’s the classic “ high risk, low reward” fight.

Should Loma lose that would affect the Teo payday and possibly the tank fight down the road.

No matter what he wants to do, he swerved Haney, to use shoulderoll’s word. Just admit it and we can move on.

You are justifying it and I am not. Is that really a big deal? If you weren’t a Loma fan you wouldn’t be justifying it.

If you know what a fighter thinks then you know a fighter and his management want to make as much as possible before a tough fight.

Buddy.. I can't keep explaining things to a 5th grader...