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  • Looks like the kid and his team knew exactly what they were doing. GREAT news that this fight got made and is being put on regular ESPN. Going to be the first big rating show for boxing post-pandemic.

    People need to stop always falling for Arum's leaks and his public pressure he tries to put on fighters. He is the undisputed GOAT at promoting but he relies on the media and everyone to take his side when things aren't going the way he wants them. The "take it or leave it" offer was so on brand for Arum...Looks like Lopez ended up getting more than that offer but not significantly more. So hey, both sides win there. I predicted Lopez probably asking for 2M and then settling for 1.6-1.8M. He ended up settling for 1.5M but that shows he never had unrealistic demands as some were saying on this board.

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    • Originally posted by Lomadeaux View Post
      Loma isn't avoiding Berchelt. He's never avoided anybody. Everybody knows this... That's a silly thing to say.

      He'll beat Lopez and everybody else in the division. Everyone's afraid of this dude and EVERYONE knows this.

      The only real question is who will have the balls to fight this dude after October. Haney is a decent fight but nothing exciting. Davis fights Leo Santa Cruz in October. They're the next fight or Davis is just scared ****less of Loma.
      You can't have it both ways. It's like I tell my son about LeBron-you can't change the fact his record in the finals is 3-6.

      Loma was at 130 and didn't fight Berchelt. You can give him a pass for that but doing so doesn't change the fact. The rumored plan is to fight him this year at 135. If he does, then you should be prepared for the criticism that he "didn't fight him at his best weight", which is something many posters have said in regards to other boxers. No matter how great he is, Loma should be held to the same standard as everyone else. That is fair, right?

      If you feel he beats Lopez, ok. If you feel everyone is afraid of him-that is absurd. Haney surely isn't afraid of him. I remind you he agreed to the Franchise champion thing which took away him having to make a mandatory defense against Haney.

      We know Davis isn't fighting him next. Davis is younger and a bigger draw. He will do what all younger, bigger draws do-fight the older champion when he is on the way out or down in a "passing of the torch" type fight. If you are a real fan of the sport you know that is how it works.

      Again, no matter how great you feel Loma is, he isn't going to change how the sport operates. Loma is good enough that he might win that fight the way Floyd beat Canelo or Duran beat Davey Moore.
      Last edited by The Big Dunn; 08-14-2020, 12:48 PM.

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      • Originally posted by Dean_Razorback View Post
        yes it happens all the time, i know, it doesn't bother me, it bothers me that is normalized by all of us. just because it happens it doesn't mean we shouldn't it call it how it is.
        I wouldn't say it's normalized by fans. It's how the sport moves forward and continues to grow. ODH had to beat Pernell and Chavez, Floyd had to beat Genaro and ODH, Holmes had to beat Ali, Tyson had to beat Holmes, etc etc.

        The sport wouldn't survive if there was never a transition t new faces and names.

        Tank is a draw. When you draw fans you have a disproportionate amount of power in this sport, sometimes as much or more power than guys that are at the top of the sport.

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        • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
          You can't have it both ways. It's like I tell my son about LeBron-you can't change the fact his record in the finals is 3-6.

          Loma was at 130 and didn't fight Berchelt. You can give him a pass for that but doing so doesn't change the fact. The rumored plan is to fight him this year at 135. If he does, then you should be prepared for the criticism that he "didn't fight him at his best weight", which is something many posters have said in regards to other boxers. No matter how great he is, Loma should be held to the same standard as everyone else. That is fair, right?

          If you feel he beats Lopez, ok. If you feel everyone is afraid of him-that is absurd. Haney surely isn't afraid of him. I remind you he agreed to the Franchise champion thing which took away him having to make a mandatory defense against Haney.

          We know Davis isn't fighting him next. Davis is younger and a bigger draw. He will do what all younger, bigger draws do-fight the older champion when he is on the way out or down in a "passing of the torch" type fight. If you are a real fan of the sport you know that is how it works.

          Again, no matter how great you feel Loma is, he isn't going to change how the sport operates. Loma is good enough that he might win that fight the way Floyd beat Canelo or Duran beat Davey Moore.
          So youre just gonna take that L huh? Great.

          And I knew it. I just knew you were one of those guys who would say Lomachenko gave up the WBC title to duck Haney.

          Lmfao. You think you're so slick.

          So after Lomachenko beats Lopez and he calls out Haney to finish his belt collection youre gonna give Haney a pass when he says no?

          Lmfao!

          Then pull the exact same **** you are with Tank. Haney is young, he dont need Lomachenko.

          But Lomachenko is also ducking Haney. Lmfaooooooooo.

          You can't make this **** up.

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          • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
            You can't have it both ways. It's like I tell my son about LeBron-you can't change the fact his record in the finals is 3-6.

            Loma was at 130 and didn't fight Berchelt. You can give him a pass for that but doing so doesn't change the fact. The rumored plan is to fight him this year at 135. If he does, then you should be prepared for the criticism that he "didn't fight him at his best weight", which is something many posters have said in regards to other boxers. No matter how great he is, Loma should be held to the same standard as everyone else. That is fair, right?

            If you feel he beats Lopez, ok. If you feel everyone is afraid of him-that is absurd. Haney surely isn't afraid of him. I remind you he agreed to the Franchise champion thing which took away him having to make a mandatory defense against Haney.

            We know Davis isn't fighting him next. Davis is younger and a bigger draw. He will do what all younger, bigger draws do-fight the older champion when he is on the way out or down in a "passing of the torch" type fight. If you are a real fan of the sport you know that is how it works.
            As a fan as an an athlete in MY sport... I know how it works and I know how you should ACT. There isn't a fighter out there that is acting like Loma right now. All he cares about is fighting the best.

            No one is running from Devin Haney.. Buddy you're delusional. He's trying to unify the division. I hope racist Haney's next... It'll be a damn massacre.

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            • Originally posted by R-Hand Southpaw View Post
              So youre just gonna take that L huh? Great.

              And I knew it. I just knew you were one of those guys who would say Lomachenko gave up the WBC title to duck Haney.

              Lmfao. You think you're so slick.

              So after Lomachenko beats Lopez and he calls out Haney to finish his belt collection youre gonna give Haney a pass when he says no?

              Lmfao!

              Then pull the exact same **** you are with Tank. Haney is young, he dont need Lomachenko.

              But Lomachenko is also ducking Haney. Lmfaooooooooo.

              You can't make this **** up.
              He's pretty bad.

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              • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                Tank is a draw. When you draw fans you have a disproportionate amount of power in this sport, sometimes as much or more power than guys that are at the top of the sport.
                Why you'd make excuses as to why champions aren't fighting champions... is beyond me and it's an insult to anyone's intelligence when you try to defend this behavior.

                Davis won't fight Loma because it destroys his career.

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                • Originally posted by Lomadeaux View Post
                  Why you'd make excuses as to why champions aren't fighting champions... is beyond me and it's an insult to anyone's intelligence when you try to defend this behavior.

                  Davis won't fight Loma because it destroys his career.
                  the big dunce is clearly delusional. he thinks stank davis is a draw on the same level as de la hoya. de la hoya was a cash cow since day 1. agree with the bold and that's why stank davis and his handlers are running from lomachenko!

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                  • So much for there having to be a PPV or guaranteed gate revenue for there to be a high level fight. There's 4.7 mil in the pot and it's going to be on regular ESPN! If Loma and Lopez can split 4.7 mil on non-PPV ESPN, a lot of other high level/profile boxers should be able to agree to fight each other and still make a lot of money. No excuses to sit on the shelf or make horrible mismatches.

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                    • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                      I agree Loma didn’t lose anything. Bob made him look great here.

                      Just one point.Davis will fight Loma when it’s convenient for him. Very similar to how Loma went past Berchelt at 130, where he has been dominant, but now wants to bring him up to 135 to fight.

                      You can’t be the kind of person that only allows Loma to exercise his a side power and delay potentially tough fights and not a black boxer like Tank.
                      Delay potentially tough fights? Are you for real? Loma more consistently fights high level competition than probably anyone else out there. Tank will probably try to fight Loma when it's convenient for him but he's not the A side in any future negotiations at this point and if he waits until Loma is closer to 40, he won't get much credit for beating him. It doesn't have anything to do with skin color. Loma has accomplished much more as a pro. That's very clear. I don't know in what world would Davis be the A side.
                      You can't compare Tank and Loma's resumes because Davis is much younger and didn't have the amateur experience Loma did. He should probably forget about Loma unless he's thinking about fighting him next year sometime.
                      I like Tank and his explosive power but he still has work to do. He looked pretty bad against Gamboa, who tore his achilles which is no joke. Hopefully he stays focused and out of trouble because I don't think AB is the best influence. He has talent but he needs to stay focused and keep improving.

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