Why all the nationalistic crap?

[Panzer Wittman]

We love to be hated. Yep, you heard me, WE LOVE TO BE HATED, but prove our haters wrong. We been like that for the entire history of our nation. Up until recent time(20th century, really) we were always the underdog, than somehow was surviving and then beating its adversaires.
But what do we got now? We get to become number one, and obviously, we changed positions with the whole world. Now we look down on anybody(especially aliens and immigrants), and now, whenever someone is fighting an american, he is an underdog, not an american. And that is why the loss is so bitter, as it always more bitter for the topdog. That is where the hate comes from, we are no more underdogs, we are number 1, and being leader is not a luxury, it never is and never was. It is responsibility and it is a burden, and a heavy burden.
And whenever we see an immigrant beating one of the americans, we see nonetheless, but ourselves. Ourselves, when we were young and hungry. And we know, that we dont have it as much anymore, and we know, that these that are young and hungry are very dangerous to us.

thats poetry, now here is another verse:

usa will allways win in the rocky movies - just take some drugs and watch that uncoordinated steroid freak with that long ethnic minority nose noseblead win the world

is there a problem?

[Guest]

This is one of the things that kills conversation more than anything on this forum, I agree. It's a shame we can't just discuss fighters, pure and simple, with no nationalistic crap.

[Abe Attell]

Yes, but as long as the World Stage is set to seperate the people, noting the World Games of Football/Soccer {World Cup}, Olympics, etc.
what do you expect...

It is about marketing...it is easier to pick your side to win then having to actually think who you like...people seem to want to be told who to route for.

I am from the States, yet I route for many athletes that are from other places in the world...I like to look at the character of the person/team, not the color(s) he/she represents

[Job]

I wonder why they think this. It's not like America is the #1 superpower in the world or anything

Is americans better people than others?
Does power make one good?

[Job]

In most countries outside the US people don't boo people of other nationalities in sports.

[Panzer Wittman]

This is one of the things that kills conversation more than anything on this forum, I agree. It's a shame we can't just discuss fighters, pure and simple, with no nationalistic crap.

i see you are having trouble holding sober conversations here - with bozo nono and the like free to roam this place..

still. the race and nationality cards can under no circumstaces be sidestepped. its a silly pipe dream - on the level of becoming a transvestite

sure there are a lot of intriguing transvestites around, but their stats are sad...

so what you prepose would work fine on a marsian colony under attack from aliens - but on this rock - unfortunately you will allways find the idea of turning a blind eye to race and culture quite silly

[Abe Attell]

In most countries outside the US people don't boo people of other nationalities in sports.

That's bull****:

Soccer/Football, go to a game in some countries and you will hear horrible remarks about blacks; not to mention, ***s are still not really well liked.
Though, looking through history in Europe, both Blacks and ***s were never to welcome so I guess it will never really change.
Maybe it is a European insecurity of Blacks and ***s: the Black Male penis and the ***ish ***els, which all women seem to like

How about Italy and their Neo **** fans?

[Job]

That's bull****:

Soccer/Football, go to a game in some countries and you will hear horrible remarks about blacks; not to mention, ***s are still not really well liked.
Though, looking through history in Europe, both Blacks and ***s were never to welcome so I guess it will never really change.

How about Italy and their Neo **** fans?

I wont pretend that football fans in Europe always are the greatest kinds of people, football has always had problems with violent and racist fans, but I wasn't talking about football, because everybody knows about the football situation. But like this latest event in Gothenburg, the European Championships in track and field, everyone was greeted with applause and appreciation, no matter if they was from Sweden, Italy or Israel.

Italy has neo ****s and *******, just as more or less every other country in the world, but they are a minority. I wont get into a discussion about politics and football in Italy, it is far to complex.

[joeytrimble]

the reason there doing this? is the same reason why when denzel washington and hallie barry won oscars they were the first african americans to do so ...see that? african american

you look up the first chicano that won a mayors race thats the first thing they say "first mexican american" ...everythings a "first" for blacks or mexicans or asians but as soon as someone says "oh look its the first time this happened for a white dude" people have a ****ing fit !!

wernt some of you hollarin about how the blacks rule boxing and how they got control of the hw division not to long ago?

its not so much an american thing its more like the shoes on the other foot kinda thing ...we heard blacks hollar look at what we're doing aint we so much better! long enough and now that we got white dudes in the front office we wanna do a little boasting !

its not so much that they're makeing a big deal about it being europeans but do you realize how big of a stink would be made if jim lamply said "for the first time in my entire broadcasting of boxing there are 4 white heavyweight champs! " people would go insane

[Job]

Whatever the sport, in the US everybody who is not american get booed, I don't think there is any other country worse when it comes to booing, perhaps with the exception of England. But just as an example, have you ever seen a japanese crowd boo an american fighter?