Wilder's nickname should be "The Logjam"

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  • Marchegiano
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    #11
    Originally posted by kafkod
    They fought Fury because they thought he was done after seeing how bad he looked in his first 2 comeback fights. They gave him a 60/40 split and sold the fight as a WBC/Lineal title unification. That tells you what the thinking was there. It was a cherry pick that went wrong.

    Wilder almost KOing Fury in the first fight, plus the money and interest that Tyson generates, gave them the courage and incentive to run it back again. Fury doesn't owe Wilder anything.
    No one said Wilder was being benevolent.

    He wanted something, Fury wanted something, neither had to make that fight, both did it. I don't see what's so hard about giving Wilder credit for fighting Fury.

    He didn't try to force Fury into a fight too quickly for him to have a camp and lose weight. They didn't have a big struggle over money. Both men had something to prove, gain, and lose.

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      #12
      Originally posted by SplitSecond
      Who should Wilder have fought besides a fat, retired Fury (whom they were rushing back btw)? Whyte who he was also ducking? Joshua who he was ducking? Will wait.

      He was just cherrypicking is all, stop lying to yourselves.

      Didn’t Joshua run from Showtime and you call Wilder the ducker?

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        #13
        Originally posted by kafkod
        Wilder gave shots to Fury and Ortiz because his team thought both would be easy wins. Genuine fans should pray he doesn't land a lucky shot on Fury and get the WBC belt back, or all the excitement and momentum the HW division gained from his defeat will be lost.
        He gave shots to those guys to try to build his brand to get more money against Joshua. It backfired.

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          #14
          Fury and Wilder are both frauds. Both only have 2 food names on their resumes and both have gone their entire careers talking trash and not backing it up. Now people are believing Fury is unbeatable and number one just like they believed that Wilder was the hardest hitter ever hahaha.

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            #15
            I'm not sure how Wilder being silent is "log-jamming" the HW division. He got silenced by Fury with the KO loss. I'm not mad at him for shutting up his ridiculous rhetoric about being the chosen one and other nonsense. In fact, I'm quite content. Take all the time you need to get your courage up to face Fury and get whipped again, Wilder.

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              #16
              At the end of the day Wilder's only loss is to Tyson Fury, the man who ended the Klitschko era.

              Anthony Joshua lost to Andy Ruiz.

              Make of that what you will.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Marchegiano
                No one said Wilder was being benevolent.

                He wanted something, Fury wanted something, neither had to make that fight, both did it. I don't see what's so hard about giving Wilder credit for fighting Fury.

                He didn't try to force Fury into a fight too quickly for him to have a camp and lose weight. They didn't have a big struggle over money. Both men had something to prove, gain, and lose.
                Originally posted by Mammoth
                He gave shots to those guys to try to build his brand to get more money against Joshua. It backfired.
                Imo, if Wilder had beaten Fury and given Haymon/Finkel the right to sell him to the fans as the WBC and lineal HW champion, that would have made a unification fight with AJ even less likely to happen.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Marchegiano
                  No one said Wilder was being benevolent.

                  He wanted something, Fury wanted something, neither had to make that fight, both did it. I don't see what's so hard about giving Wilder credit for fighting Fury.

                  He didn't try to force Fury into a fight too quickly for him to have a camp and lose weight. They didn't have a big struggle over money. Both men had something to prove, gain, and lose.
                  But the way things stand now, Wilder has everything to gain and nothing to lose from a trilogy fight. For Fury, that situation is reversed.

                  Without the WBC title, Fury is Wilder's only hope of another big payday in the foreseeable future. Fury, on the other hand, can earn more from fighting AJ and/or Whyte than he would get for Wilder again. Fury vs AJ would be possibly the biggest paying fight in boxing history.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by kafkod
                    Wilder gave shots to Fury and Ortiz because his team thought both would be easy wins. Genuine fans should pray he doesn't land a lucky shot on Fury and get the WBC belt back, or all the excitement and momentum the HW division gained from his defeat will be lost.
                    So are you saying is that it all it takes is just one good punch on the chin of Tyson Fury from Deontay Wilder in order for him to regain the WBC heavyweight title?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by REDEEMER
                      Wilder ducked AJ for undisputed and turned down 120 million to fight a guy that was losing over 100 pounds just to get back to form and he cost himself more then money but now losing 3 fights in a row around the corner .
                      You forgot that AJ was exposed too. He is now regarded as a chinny boxer among boxing circles. What happens now if he was to challenge a huge puncher?

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