Comments Thread For: Arum: Loma Has Given Us Relief, If Lopez Turns Down Deal - On To The Next

[jonnyc420]

Did you feel this way when Vasily Lomachenko, ducked Devin Haney tho? Oh, that was yesterday huh?

Exactly how is Loma ducking Haney? He's been tied to Lopez for months. Try again you loser. Haney is chasing broken down Gamboa. You are pure nonsense.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

Leave Ryan Garcia out of this. But really, Ryan Garcia probably has more of legit case as a WBC titlist as the WBC 'Silver' champion, when you weigh it against Vasily Lomachenko's 'Franchise' title -- does that even come with a actual belt?

Yeah, too bad Ryan Garcia is going to lose to Luke Campbell. Id bet money on that one.

Guy hasn't even finalized that fight yet so until that happens I won't believe that it does.

Lomachenko was not stripped nor did he lose the WBC championship. So I dont know how you could possibly think that someone who doesnt even have a belt has more claim than Lomachenko.

Plus, Franchise means that you're the big daddy. No WBC belt holds higher value than Franchise champ even if the title itself is a joke.

[thack]

Sounds like Crawford , it's a ****** stance in these troubled times

[Bronx2245]

I'm all for fighters getting paid, however I would hate to see Teo Lopez overplay his hand here. Let's play it out:

1. Teo walks away on principle, ok fine

2. The perception is that Teo was afraid to lose and simply wanted to cash out

3. Loma ends up looking like the "good guy" now because he was willing to take less to make the fight happen and Teo wasn't.

4. Teo asked for this opportunity and now it seems like he's about to throw it away. That's not a good look, especially since Teo has talked so much about how he will beat Loma if given the chance

5. If Teo ends up facing someone else for less then he will be seen as having ducked Loma. Whether it's actually true or not doesn't matter because that will be the perception

6. Last but not least, Teo made the infamous "gotta feed my family" statement about a 1.2 million payday while people are losing their jobs due to a pandemic. Yes I know he gets less than that after taxes and paying everyone but still not a good look

You can't change perceptions. Someone could have the perception that Loma purposely put his kid on ice so that he'll have to struggle to make 135, whether true or not! Someone could have the perception that by Loma saying "get a belt first," was a way to duck Teo, whether true or not! There are a lot of people without jobs, but ESPN is not one of them. ESPN wants big fights, then they should pay more for the fight, or make it a PPV on ESPN+. Who made the decision for this fight to be on regular ESPN? Crawford vs. Khan was a PPV, why not Loma vs. Lopez? If the pandemic is the problem, then maybe the fight has to wait?

[wrecksracer]

The situation in boxing now is "Do you want to make some money or no money". Lopez is choosing to make no money. Maybe he thinks the fight will still be available next year. I'm not sure it will

[1hourRun]

Not true.

Based on "The WBC's Claim" (as it also relates to Canelo who is technically still the WBC Franchise Middleweight Champion") If and whenever the the "Franchise" Champion is to defend the title it would be regarded as a legitimate title defense (aka this fight would be an Undisputed Lightweight title fight). Haney essentially is a glorified Interim Champion without "Interim" being tagged to his title.

What I will say is if the Lopez fight doesn't happen they should go ahead with the Haney fight if Haney isn't asking for quadruple the money he'd made up till now (which wouldn't surprise me).

If the 'Franchise' champion is not forced to fight the 'Interim' or any contender for that matter, then how do you consider that clown Lomachenko a real WBC 'Champion'?

Exactly how is Loma ducking Haney? He's been tied to Lopez for months. Try again you loser. Haney is chasing broken down Gamboa. You are pure nonsense.

Bumchenko was under normal circumstances to defend the WBC lightweight title against the 'Interim Champ', however, due to dishonest bias politics on the part of team Lomachenko, Toprank and the WBC, Lomachenko used the 'Franchise' status to vacate the WBC lightweight title, instead of facing Devin Haney.

The hypocrisy in Lomachenko threads, is laughable. You have no right criticizing Teofimo, if you support Lomachenko ducking Devin Haney.

Yeah, too bad Ryan Garcia is going to lose to Luke Campbell. Id bet money on that one.

Guy hasn't even finalized that fight yet so until that happens I won't believe that it does.

Lomachenko was not stripped nor did he lose the WBC championship. So I dont know how you could possibly think that someone who doesnt even have a belt has more claim than Lomachenko.

Plus, Franchise means that you're the big daddy. No WBC belt holds higher value than Franchise champ even if the title itself is a joke.

Vasily Lomachenko vacated the real belt with legitimate lineage, ironically the WBC debased its prestigious lightweight crown to honor this overrated clown and grant Vasily unwarranted and unprecedented privilege.

The WBC 'Franchise' title is a hollow construction devised to protect the interest of said organisation and its affiliates, it does not represent a genuine claim or ownership to the 135 division.

[PRchamp]

Nobody should be agreeing to a oaycut from arum. He's been robbing boxers blind for about 50 yrs. He can take a loss now that he's 112 yrs old.

Exactly. Top Rank and Arum made a bunch of $$$ off the Fury-Wilder rematch and you telling me they can’t pay Lopez a little more for a fight everybody wants to see. Arum stinks and he’s been the problem in boxing

[Ray*]

The situation in boxing now is "Do you want to make some money or no money". Lopez is choosing to make no money. Maybe he thinks the fight will still be available next year. I'm not sure it will

Lopez has talked about the issues making the weight limit, and how he wants the loma fight now etc. So going by that alone he shouldn't wait it out. Moreover he was the one criticising Lomachenko for trying to avoid the fight without any evidence, the onus was for Lopez to win a belt and then make it worth Lomachenko's time, he did that and he now has to either take this fight or move up for less money.

[jonnyc420]

If the 'Franchise' champion is not forced to fight the 'Interim' or any contender for that matter, then how do you consider that clown Lomachenko a real WBC 'Champion'?

Bumchenko was under normal circumstances to defend the WBC lightweight title against the 'Interim Champ', however, due to dishonest bias politics on the part of team Lomachenko, Toprank and the WBC, Lomachenko used the 'Franchise' status to vacate the WBC lightweight title, instead of facing Devin Haney.

The hypocrisy in Lomachenko threads, is laughable. You have no right criticizing Teofimo, if you support Lomachenko ducking Devin Haney.

Vasily Lomachenko vacated the real belt with legitimate lineage, ironically the WBC debased its prestigious lightweight crown to honor this overrated clown and grant Vasily unwarranted and unprecedented privilege.

The WBC 'Franchise' title is a hollow construction devised to protect the interest of said organisation and its affiliates, it does not represent a genuine claim or ownership to the 135 division.

According to you everything is corrupt, you cried about every thing regarding Fury/Wilder 2 and here you are crying again about corruption. You are a joke, Loma would have no problem facing Haney and he doesn't make the decisions for the WBC. He has been linked to Lopez since before the whole rona kicked off. Now that that fight looks to be off, he is free to go after Haney, who has faced pure nobodies and was gifted a belt. Loma has beaten several former or reigning champs. Thinking he is ducking anyone is a joke. Stop making excuses because you don't like Loma's skin color. Exactly what you done to Fury too. Sad little man.

[Jab jab boom]

Exactly. Top Rank and Arum made a bunch of $$$ off the Fury-Wilder rematch and you telling me they can’t pay Lopez a little more for a fight everybody wants to see. Arum stinks and he’s been the problem in boxing

seriously, like what's an extra mil to arum?? It's no coincidence that Oscar, floyd and cotto all left him and ended up making more money without him. Not to mention all the money he's made of Pacquiao. He can afford it.