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  • famicommander
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    #11
    Originally posted by Pantera_
    Amanda Serrano would break this chick's jaw.
    You obviously don't watch women's boxing.

    Serrano is a cherry picking bum blaster. She wins vacant belts against overmatched opponents, then vacates them without defending them.

    Braekhus has beaten Anne Sophie Mathis twice. The same Anne Sophie Mathis that did this to Holly Holm:



    Mathis also knocked out Christina Hammer, who Shields failed to stop.

    Braekhus has half a dozen wins at least that are against way better fighters than Serrano.

    Mathis twice, Myriam Lamare, Chevelle Hallback, Mia St John, Erica Farias, Mikaela Lauren twice, etc.

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      #12
      Originally posted by famicommander
      You obviously don't watch women's boxing.

      Serrano is a cherry picking bum blaster. She wins vacant belts against overmatched opponents, then vacates them without defending them.

      Braekhus has beaten Anne Sophie Mathis twice. The same Anne Sophie Mathis that did this to Holly Holm:



      Mathis also knocked out Christina Hammer, who Shields failed to stop.

      Braekhus has half a dozen wins at least that are against way better fighters than Serrano.

      Mathis twice, Myriam Lamare, Chevelle Hallback, Mia St John, Erica Farias, Mikaela Lauren twice, etc.
      Skills pay the bills. Serrano clocks her in 3.

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      • famicommander
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        #13
        Originally posted by Pantera_
        Skills pay the bills. Serrano clocks her in 3.
        Serrano couldn't even beat Frida Wallberg.

        Braekhus would win every single round against Serrano. It wouldn't even be remotely close.

        Braekhus has an iron chin, too. She has only been knocked down once in her career, and that was a flash knockdown in a fight she won 8 rounds to 2 against former WBC 160 pound champion Kali Reis.

        Braekhus has easily beaten some of the biggest punchers in women's boxing history. Serrano would have no chance.

        She's a hypejob who never defends her belts and never fights anyone good. She has more fights than Braekhus but way, way fewer quality opponents. Braekhus has fought and beaten 17 other world champions, Serrano has fought 8 and lost to 1.

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        • SteveM
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          #14
          Lol at "Abel leads by example" - what example is that? He might be a good coach but he is a fat, out-of-shape, non physical specimen. Put him in with Freddie Roach and my money is on Roach - still!

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            #15
            Originally posted by famicommander
            You obviously don't watch women's boxing.

            Braekhus has beaten Anne Sophie Mathis twice. The same Anne Sophie Mathis that did this to Holly Holm:


            What is wrong with this referee - just hold her up so that she can REALLY get some brain damage

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              #16
              Can't say I keep up with women's boxing, if it's featured on a card I'll sometimes watch. It's rarely ever entertaining. No need to make any comparison to men's boxing records, I mean the talent pool in women's boxing is more of a puddle.

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                #17
                Originally posted by jonnyc420
                Can't say I keep up with women's boxing, if it's featured on a card I'll sometimes watch. It's rarely ever entertaining. No need to make any comparison to men's boxing records, I mean the talent pool in women's boxing is more of a puddle.
                Even with the lower overall talent pool, it's still a ridiculously good accomplishment to defend a title 25+ times.

                There's a reason nobody else has done it, male or female, even with 17 weight divisions (18 for women) and 4 belts per division.

                26 defenses is 26 defenses. It's not an equivalent accomplishment to Joe Louis but it's still a legitimate record and it deserves to be celebrated.

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                • BoxingIsGreat
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Citizen Koba
                  No, man... there's a few dudes here follow the women's sport a bit and this one ain't to be missed any more than Taylor vs Persoon II.
                  Co-sign. Green K.
                  War Taylor!

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Citizen Koba
                    They ain't, cos the men's sport has vastly more competitors in and always has, but nonetheless it's still a huge achievement for anyone in any sport to be so far ahead of the competition for so long.
                    It's certainly an achievement, in its own right, within women's boxing only. But it's not really that huge when you take into account the vastly inferior skillset of the limited amount of competition available. It's easy to see the likes of Braekhus, Shields and Taylor as highly skilled boxers when the opposition they face would struggle to compete with teenage amateur male boxers. Whereas the aforementioned names would themselves not likely surpass national level in the male ranks; not because of strength, but simply due to skill. And for those reasons, male and female records should never be mentioned in the same sentence, scratch that, the same paragraph, scratch that, the same page, scratch that, the same chapter, scratch that, the same book.

                    Well done to her for achieving what she has but let's be realistic about these things; she's a decent boxer fighting below average and at times, way below average opponents, which isn't her fault, but these things have to be taken into account when gauging the actual value of such achievements.

                    A good example would be that American amateur boxer who had an astounding record of 500–0. Huge achievement on the face of it, but when you take into account he never competed beyond local club level, not such an achievement after all.

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                    • Citizen Koba
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                      #20
                      Hi
                      Originally posted by Squared.Circle
                      It's certainly an achievement, in its own right, within women's boxing only. But it's not really that huge when you take into account the vastly inferior skillset of the limited amount of competition available. It's easy to see the likes of Braekhus, Shields and Taylor as highly skilled boxers when the opposition they face would struggle to compete with teenage amateur male boxers. Whereas the aforementioned names would themselves not likely surpass national level in the male ranks; not because of strength, but simply due to skill. And for those reasons, male and female records should never be mentioned in the same sentence, scratch that, the same paragraph, scratch that, the same page, scratch that, the same chapter, scratch that, the same book.

                      Well done to her for achieving what she has but let's be realistic about these things; she's a decent boxer fighting below average and at times, way below average opponents, which isn't her fault, but these things have to be taken into account when gauging the actual value of such achievements.

                      A good example would be that American amateur boxer who had an astounding record of 500–0. Huge achievement on the face of it, but when you take into account he never competed beyond local club level, not such an achievement after all.
                      Mmmm. Damned with faint praise indeed. Undoubtedly the women's sport is still in its infancy, only starting to achieve recognition within the last 15 years or so. However skills can be improved, talent pools deepened. With the support of fans that will hopefully come.. What these women do display however is every bit the determination the will and the courage shown by their male counterparts - more so in some ways since in many cases they've had to struggle against stigma and entrenched attitudes to get where they have.

                      Way I see it you take it as is, treat it as a separate sport in its own right, the way you'd maybe treat the ammys as a separate sport, but appreciate the battle of wills that takes place in the ring no less for the fact that it's usually taking place at a lower skill level.... Did you watch Egg n Cheese go at it last weekend? Were you dismissive cos you didn't see Sweet Pea and Floyd in there? Nah, what I saw was two fighters leaving everything they had in the ring, and women can do that just as well as men can.
                      Last edited by Citizen Koba; 08-06-2020, 03:42 AM.

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