I am sure Joyce would be a world titlist in 90s

[JakeTheBoxer]

Even old fat Foreman, much smaller than Joyce, had success in that era, so I think Joyce would beat guys like Moorer, Savarese, ex cruiserweight Holyfield. He would be huge compared to them. He would still probably lose to Lennox, the best guy of that era.

Joyce unfortunately for him fights in strong era, i don`t believe he can beat Fury or Joshua, even Dubois.

[MDPopescu]

Even old fat Foreman, much smaller than Joyce, had success in that era, so I think Joyce would beat guys like Moorer, Savarese, ex cruiserweight Holyfield. He would be huge compared to them. He would still probably lose to Lennox, the best guy of that era.

Joyce unfortunately for him fights in strong era, i don`t believe he can beat Fury or Joshua, even Dubois.

... I don't know how "strong" they are... but they are "huge" alright...

[asgarth]

He would be too slow for Holyfield and Holyfield would land sharp punches inbetween.
Joyce puts away old, inactive opponents and bums early, but Jennings, who at least has decent stamina, was rather easily able to take joyce pressure, especially after Joyce slowed down even more in the second half of the fight.

If Jennings had more power, he would have been able to at least hurt Joyce. Wasnt really difficult for Jennings to find him.

[baroidi]

War is peace, slavery is freedom, no matter how much bull**** you spew out, sane people aren't gonna believe that this era's HW is anything but garbage. The only decent HW is Fury, his size and awkwardness will give any HW problems. Wilder was a hype job that got floored by pillow fisted Fury, and Joshua got floored by an obese Mexican and the only reason he won the rematch was that the obese Mexican came in even more out of shape. Any HW with decent fitness could've hit and run like Joshua against the out of shape fat Mexican.

[Clegg]

I thought he only just got by Jennings (7-5 type of fight iirc) so the idea of him being so big he'd destroy the guys you're naming doesn't add up

[boliodogs]

Even old fat Foreman, much smaller than Joyce, had success in that era, so I think Joyce would beat guys like Moorer, Savarese, ex cruiserweight Holyfield. He would be huge compared to them. He would still probably lose to Lennox, the best guy of that era.

Joyce unfortunately for him fights in strong era, i don`t believe he can beat Fury or Joshua, even Dubois.

It is not how big you are that makes a good heavyweight champion. It is how good you are that matters. If being bigger makes a heavyweight better then 250 pound Willard would have defeated 185 pound Dempsey. 260 pound Canelo would have defeated 200 pound Joe Louis. If the giant is as fast and skilled as the normal sized good heavyweight then they will win but they never are as good. Fury is not champion because he is so big. There have been hundreds of heavyweights as bigger than Fury who never came close to being a champion. Fury being big doesn't hurt him and maybe it helps him some. But he would not be a champion if he was not skillful. If Joyce can't be champion today he might not have been a champion in the time you say heavyweights were so weak. Fighters from the past fight today's fighters so it is just opinion one era was better or worse and not provable fact.

[Get em up]

Even old fat Foreman, much smaller than Joyce, had success in that era, so I think Joyce would beat guys like Moorer, Savarese, ex cruiserweight Holyfield. He would be huge compared to them. He would still probably lose to Lennox, the best guy of that era.

Joyce unfortunately for him fights in strong era, i don`t believe he can beat Fury or Joshua, even Dubois.

I dont think Joyce would stand a chance against guys like Holyfield. David Tua and Tommy Morrison would eat him alive hes too slow much less guys like Holyfield

[buge]

It is not how big you are that makes a good heavyweight champion. It is how good you are that matters. If being bigger makes a heavyweight better then 250 pound Willard would have defeated 185 pound Dempsey. 260 pound Canelo would have defeated 200 pound Joe Louis. If the giant is as fast and skilled as the normal sized good heavyweight then they will win but they never are as good. Fury is not champion because he is so big. There have been hundreds of heavyweights as bigger than Fury who never came close to being a champion. Fury being big doesn't hurt him and maybe it helps him some. But he would not be a champion if he was not skillful. If Joyce can't be champion today he might not have been a champion in the time you say heavyweights were so weak. Fighters from the past fight today's fighters so it is just opinion one era was better or worse and not provable fact.

I assume you mean Carnera, but a 260lb Canelo getting in there with Joe Louis would be interesting

[TMLT87]

I dont think Joyce would stand a chance against guys like Holyfield. David Tua and Tommy Morrison would eat him alive hes too slow much less guys like Holyfield

I think he would have a solid shot at beating Morrison. Tommy was a glass cannon while Joyce is heavy handed, durable and a lot bigger.

Obviously the 90s HW scene overall was better than todays.

[ShaneMosleySr]

Foreman landed a miracle punch on Moorer.

He lost every second of that fight, lost wide to Holyfield and lost wide to Morrison.

His miracle shot is not a reason to think anyone could win a title in that era.

Could Joyce land a miracle shot? Sure. But he would be an underdog against everyone who held a title in that decade.