Joe Joyce case tells us lot about Wilder

[JakeTheBoxer]

I think nobody not named Tyson Fury beats Joyce easily.

Joshua is chinny.
Wilder can`t box.
Parker has no power.
Ruiz is fat.
Ortiz is old.
Hunter went life and death with old Povetkin
Povetkin is old and small
Whyte goes life and death with everybody
Pulev the same

DDD is very dangerous opponent, but still, Joyce can beat the guy down.

Joyce is slow, but my eye test tells, he is not worse than the majority of top 10 guys. But tyson Fury would box circles arund him and probably finish him lately.

[lolpz]

Wilder lost nearly all rounds against Washington...and?

What do you mean “and?”


It was only 4 rounds in and he knocked him the **** out. Comatosed/put him to sleep. Washington was also undefeated and at his best at the time.

Not a 12 round fight...

[LetOutTheCage]

They’re not nobodies and we don’t know if they would have lost to Joyce at any point and time because Joyce hasn’t had a step up fight.

I think he’s been very impressive but if he fights a top 10 guy and gets beat, he kind of hurts the idea that he would have beaten those guys at any point of their career.

Yes the great Arreola who got beat once he stepped up from his mediocre opposition.

I repeat neither Stiverne nor Jennings were any good in the first place if they were they wouldn't have lost to a guy who became a pro at 31... He started boxing at 22 for crying out loud, its evident that Joyce lacks the fundamentals but he beat Stiverne in his 8th professional fight...

[BOJACK]

wilder by first round KO

[Kezzer]

JJ has only had 11 fights, and all opponents have winning records.
I agree that Fury and Wilder just don't fight the best guys, but Joyce is game and won't duck, unlike the other two.

He needs to change his mantra then, I did think he had fought more than 11 to be fair but he’s constantly saying he’s being fast tracked but hasn’t taken anyone I consider decent yet. He’s 34 , so when you consider Joshua is 30 and fury 31 he needs to start stepping up for real soon. At the moment I can see see him getting a title fight till at least 2022 by which time he is at least 36... considering once Whyte got to no1 he has been waiting 1000 days and still not got a shot - that maybe even ambitious!!