Pac's Career Put Into Perspective

[BodyBagz]

DLH was at the end but so what? He's still DLH and would beat most guys. When they announced the fight, I picked Oscar right off the bat. After that, I actually sided with Pac and didn't like him before but damn, when a dude keeps beating people, he deserves credit after a while. When Wilder beat Ortiz, I gave him credit and I didn't like him at all. Ortiz was a legitimate threat and he beat him. I mean, hell, thats all he has to do.

With Cotto, he beat the s h i t out of Cotto. I don't care about clauses or anything else. He murdered Cotto. That was a beat-down. It's very simple.

Nah, GGG fought guys who were nowhere near Cotto or DLH at any phase of their careers and got too much credit for it from his fanboys of course. He also did fight Canelo twice and arguably won the first fight. So he's willing to face good fighters. A lot of guys ducked him after all.

Pac fought scrubs. Sure. So did everyone else. Floyd fought an MMA fighter who'd never had one boxing match and conned idiots into buying it. He beat down a midget who never boxed. He's talking about fighting a YT guy. I mean, damn. At least Pac fought guys who have boxed before.

Well, when the name-calling starts, it's over. I agree there.

I will give Pac vs DLH a pass but that was the absolute worst DLH. Pac fans don't want to add that part. If the name is shot, say it. If the name is claused, say it. If the title was a joke, say it.

This is no slight on the fan !
The boxer who you feel has been insulted will not come to any of our rescue if we are insulted.

I remember this one clip showing Britney Spears fans beat up this one girl because she said Spears sucks. What did Britney do ? Get in her limbo and left.

When Pac fans keep rolling out ''8 div''....they stop.....right.....there.

Why ?

Limo.....

[Tony Trick-Pony]

I will give Pac vs DLH a pass but that was the absolute worst DLH. Pac fans don't want to add that part. If the name is shot, say it. If the name is claused, say it. If the title was a joke, say it.

This is no slight on the fan !
The boxer who you feel has been insulted will not come to any of our rescue if we are insulted.

I remember this one clip showing Britney Spears fans beat up this one girl because she said Spears sucks. What did Britney do ? Get in her limbo and left.

When Pac fans keep rolling out ''8 div''....they stop.....right.....there.

Why ?

Well the 8-division thing is bs. In this era, Broner and Mikey and Cotto became 4-division champs. It doesn't mean what it used to mean when you had to really earn it. In Armstrong's day, 3-division was incredible. In Duran and Leonard's day, 4-division was incredible. Now? Not so much. Too many divisions. It's not that hard now. Isn't LSC even a 4-division now? Pathetic.

[BodyBagz]

Well the 8-division thing is bs. In this era, Broner and Mikey and Cotto became 4-division champs. It doesn't mean what it used to mean when you had to really earn it. In Armstrong's day, 3-division was incredible. In Duran and Leonard's day, 4-division was incredible. Now? Not so much. Too many divisions. It's not that hard now. Isn't LSC even a 4-division now? Pathetic.

Right. 5 dozen divs and 2x as many titles.

Pac is fun to watch. Yes, he USED to be a Flyweight (Pac fans keep bringing it up as if he still is a FW beating up WW).

They say it can't be done again. Perhaps. But no Pac fan is going to convince me his road to those titles wasn't well planned.

You made a thread about styles....I like Pac's style more than other styles (seeking out a Ko). But if I had to chose a style I feel is a more successful one, I have to side with a competent boxer. Use that guys aggression against him. It's not running away if you outland a guy, is it ?

Even in defeat, a power puncher is always a style I prefer to watch.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Right. 5 dozen divs and 2x as many titles.

Pac is fun to watch. Yes, he USED to be a Flyweight (Pac fans keep bringing it up as if he still is a FW beating up WW).

They say it can't be done again. Perhaps. But no Pac fan is going to convince me his road to those titles wasn't well planned.

You made a thread about styles....I like Pac's style more than other styles (seeking out a Ko). But if I had to chose a style I feel is a more successful one, I have to side with a competent boxer. Use that guys aggression against him. It's not running away if you outland a guy, is it ?

Even in defeat, a power puncher is always a style I prefer to watch.

Yeah, I like the offensive fighters. They make things happen. The defensive guys are great sometimes but can put the crowd to sleep, too. Both have their flaws. It's just a matter of what you like to watch. A mix of both is ideal obviously.

[hugh grant]

Already champ the names I gave you are a huge ****inn deal.

But ok so the “clause” smh boohoo

Now a lesser fighter but performances also comes to play Hatton went some rds with Floyd but got nearly killed by little Manny fuxxxkin brutal shiattt.


Margarito a huge iron jawed 154lber again all about performance Manny fuccked him up brutally!!!!!!

Let me get straight to Thurman an in his prime undefeated we champ yet the old fuccckin man whooped his ass.

Cmon dude it’s one thing if you dislike the guy but don’t go full reeetarrdd never do that Manny is legendary as they come.

Now again if you gonna nit pick at it give me you’re top guys so I can do the same champ.

I could destroy Floyd's resume easy but I dont. I knew this thread starter is a Pac hater, Floyd lover so I wasn't going to visit this thread.
Pac s wins over cott o and thurman and Bradley are every bit as good as srl win over Duran and Hearne and benitez.
Because Pac came from flyweight. Pac s wins are arguably greater
Pac s top 5 all time

[Roadblock]

I could destroy Floyd's resume easy but I dont. I knew this thread starter is a Pac hater, Floyd lover so I wasn't going to visit this thread.
Pac s wins over cott o and thurman and Bradley are every bit as good as srl win over Duran and Hearne and benitez.
Because Pac came from flyweight. Pac s wins are arguably greater
Pac s top 5 all time

I will take you on any time Floyds resume vs Mannys resume, head to head fight for fight, start the thread any time you like, I will drown your BS like a rat that fell in a bucket of water.

Mannys wins over Cotto Thurman and Bradley are all BS lol, one drained coming of a cheat beating, Thurman was broken needing surgery, and Bradley is a A- JWW having his first WW fight. jeezus man dont be so fcn ******, and you rate them over Duran Hearns and Benitez , God dam thats got to be most redicules post ever.

At what point do think Horn could rough up SRL lol, Id bet Ray would beat him now at over 60 lol.

[hugh grant]

I will take you on any time Floyds resume vs Mannys resume, head to head fight for fight, start the thread any time you like, I will drown your BS like a rat that fell in a bucket of water.

Mannys wins over Cotto Thurman and Bradley are all BS lol, one drained coming of a cheat beating, Thurman was broken needing surgery, and Bradley is a A- JWW having his first WW fight. jeezus man dont be so fcn ******, and you rate them over Duran Hearns and Benitez , God dam thats got to be most redicules post ever.

At what point do think Horn could rough up SRL lol, Id bet Ray would beat him now at over 60 lol.

Floyd s no threat to anyone look at Duran v Floyd ATG poll. I don't need to start threads trolling floyd, I won't kick a man when he's down.
The vote I gave Duran I want to take it back and give to Floyd he needs help. Help me retract it. I'm being serious.
Also I apologise thurman win is greater, not arguably greater than srl wins, context is everything.. 41 year olds aren't supposed to beat young undefeated lions in prime. So srl top wins are supposedly better than pac s is fake news

[Roadblock]

Floyd s no threat to anyone look at Duran v Floyd ATG poll. I don't need to start threads trolling floyd, I won't kick a man when he's down.
The vote I gave Duran I want to take it back and give to Floyd he needs help. Help me retract it. I'm being serious.

Start the thread, back your mouth up for once, we all know you wont because I will expose you and make you run away again like always, when it comes to it Mannys biggest fanboys are cowards.

Floyd resume shts all over Manny its not even close and I can prove it just by the recorded facts that are known, weights measures timing and opponents form going into fights, and I wont mention your favorite fan word GREATER at all, not once, just facts and figures.

[blowblow]

if that is your point then argue with the officials who ranked Manny as top 5 ATG. i cant see what you are arguing for when you're just an another hater who doesn't have the credibility to rank boxers. if you mean that you are more knowledgeable than them then we are are happy for you mate. you're in the parallel world. we know your boy floy is down there at ranked 40ish while manny is at 3. it makes sense.

[Roadblock]

if that is your point then argue with the officials who ranked Manny as top 5 ATG. i cant see what you are arguing for when you're just an another hater who doesn't have the credibility to rank boxers. if you mean that you are more knowledgeable than them then we are are happy for you mate. you're in the parallel world. we know your boy floy is down there at ranked 40ish while manny is at 3. it makes sense.

Fans come at all levels in all clothing , when faced with numbers, timing, recorded history in other words actually scrutinize the merit in a win not rejoice the trophy, they dont all come the same way, when you do that fans are left with all they ever had, hype !

Put me in a room to debate anybody that thinks manny is top 5 AT , anybody and I will cut every win down to what they really meant in boxing merrit and they will have no answer, numbers dont lie and will beat hype to death.

The very reason Manny fans only have a very small minority of he said she said , gossip is all they have to hold on to.