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  • Eastlos
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    #11
    Originally posted by indelible
    You forgot about Edgar Berlanga who's been KO all his opponents in the first round. No other current prospect has been doing that.
    LOL, can’t compare Vergil who has actually KO’d legit opposition like Orozco and Herrera with the bums Berlanga has been putting to sleep.

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    • indelible
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      #12
      Originally posted by MulaKO
      Didn’t forget but he’s been knocking out guys with 10 losses
      Not the best opponents
      I think Ortiz is the real deal
      Fair enough but like another poster on here said, would definitely like to see him fight other opponents with different styles to see how he adapts before we can be absolutely certain he is the real deal and a complete fighter that is capable of handling himself well with the likes of other welters like Garcia, Ugas, Spence, Crawford and so on

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        #13
        Originally posted by Curtis2
        Great fight, Ortiz & Boots would smash PBC's WW stable....Boots is aligned with Cameron Dunkin, I believe, this fight could happen..
        I think it would launch the winner into a position where superstardom is within grasp and for sure would be a barn burner for a fight.

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          #14
          Originally posted by indelible
          Fair enough but like another poster on here said, would definitely like to see him fight other opponents with different styles to see how he adapts before we can be absolutely certain he is the real deal and a complete fighter that is capable of handling himself well with the likes of other welters like Garcia, Ugas, Spence, Crawford and so on
          Boots Ennis and Ortiz is the fight to launch the winner in with names like that.

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          • indelible
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            #15
            Originally posted by Eastlos
            LOL, can’t compare Vergil who has actually KO’d legit opposition like Orozco and Herrera with the bums Berlanga has been putting to sleep.
            Come on dude, lets not cloud out the fact that Orozco was already damaged goods after the war with Ramirez and Herrera is ancient. I'm not taking any credit from Ortiz as being touted as the face of boxing by Golden Boy but there's more to the game and Ortiz understands his place which is what I like about him.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Get em up
              Boots Ennis and Ortiz is the fight to launch the winner in with names like that.
              Absolutely! Since I watched Ennis on ShoBox Generations, that was the first thing that crossed my mind, his style would mesh perfectly with Ortiz and would be a 50/50 fight. They should make that a title eliminator

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              • Eastlos
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                #17
                Originally posted by indelible
                Come on dude, lets not cloud out the fact that Orozco was already damaged goods after the war with Ramirez and Herrera is ancient. I'm not taking any credit from Ortiz as being touted as the face of boxing by Golden Boy but there's more to the game and Ortiz understands his place which is what I like about him.
                Orozco went 12 rounds with the unified 140 lbs champ in Ramirez how does that make him damage goods? C’mon, if anything it goes to show how good Vergil is that he sparked him out in 6 rds. Yes, Herrera is ancient but also a very crafty veteran who had never been stop before fighting Vergil. Again, no comparison to the cab drivers Berlanga has KO’d during his streak

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                • indelible
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Eastlos
                  Orozco went 12 rounds with the unified 140 lbs champ in Ramirez how does that make him damage goods? C’mon, if anything it goes to show how good Vergil is that he sparked him out in 6 rds. Yes, Herrera is ancient but also a very crafty veteran who had never been stop before fighting Vergil. Again, no comparison to the cab drivers Berlanga has KO’d during his streak
                  Orozco fought Ramirez at junior welter and Ortiz at welterweight. His power did not transfer well to 147 and was a clear indicator when he fought Jose Rodriguez. I agree that Herrera is a crafty veteran but of course he was stopped given his age while Ortiz has youth. If Ortiz had fought the Herrera that fought Garcia the outcome would have been different

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                  • Eastlos
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by indelible
                    Orozco fought Ramirez at junior welter and Ortiz at welterweight. His power did not transfer well to 147 and was a clear indicator when he fought Jose Rodriguez. I agree that Herrera is a crafty veteran but of course he was stopped given his age while Ortiz has youth. If Ortiz had fought the Herrera that fought Garcia the outcome would have been different
                    No matter how you cut it Orozco a tough out for anybody. Although, Orozco was KO’d by Vergil I think he gave a good showing of himself. Also, I’d take this version of Ortiz over any version of Herrera even the one that beat Danny back in the day. Unfortunately, you don’t see how special Vergil really is there’s a reason why Mikey and Jose Ramirez praise him in interviews and ask to spar Vergil when they have fight coming up the kid makes them better.

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                    • MulaKO
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by indelible
                      Fair enough but like another poster on here said, would definitely like to see him fight other opponents with different styles to see how he adapts before we can be absolutely certain he is the real deal and a complete fighter that is capable of handling himself well with the likes of other welters like Garcia, Ugas, Spence, Crawford and so on


                      Definitely
                      Can’t argue with that

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