Floyd ruined boxing in America

[vinamars]

LMAO. Floyd Mayweather is one of the greatest boxers of all time. If anything he SAVED boxing in America. Floyd Mayweather is for me the last GREAT AMERICAN BOXER.

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[nino brown21]

mayweather back in the day was a very talented boxer but when he broke his hand or wrist, he started to box more technically. he turned boxing into chess not checkers and unfortunately that lost ALOT of fans because of the way he fought and the moves he made. now everyones trying to replicate him and its getting pretty bad...

[Doubledagger]

Every one of Floyd's major fights looked like soft controlled sparring session business deals, designed to steal your money and protect the fraud franchise revenue stream.

Floyd was a willing actor, who wouldn't take millions for risk free sparring sessions, with the only work being training in the gym to look the part and pretending to be the greatest fighter ever?

But Floyd was a counterfeit and exposed himself as a fraud many times. Fearing for his health, endless duck excuses to evade threatening opponents his protectors could not buy off.

Floyd acted like a big shot, like a spoiled brat who knew the establishment was using him and had his back, but he was a lousy actor, a lousy pretender, and a dumb fool who constantly exposed himself. On radio shows, when Margarito confronted him, ESPN with Brian Kenny, HBO with Larry Merchant, the endless Pac duck excuses, even calling himself a coward on video interviews.

All the boring rigged victories stunk like a fake waltz and after a while the fans rejected the lil coward, sending him off to Japan to beat up bums over there.

The damage is done now. Now sports fans have zero trust in the sport to pay to see any American boxers. And most all american boxers want to be protected frauds and businessmen, they don't have what it takes to be the best. Wilder was finally exposed after 50 fake dives.

Boxing in America may never regain it's foothold, the golden jackpot days of Oscar, Tyson, Ali, Holyfield and Bowe, etc. Gyms just are not producing anything special anymore. You can't name one US amateur of any note.

When boxing returns, there is not one fight in AMerica that can generate big box office or PPV numbers.

The only hope... there is but one hope to save the sport...IRON MIKE...!!!

"And most all american boxers want to be protected frauds and businessmen, they don't have what it takes to be the best."

This is the only part of your entire statement that is true (Errol Spence excluded)

[TheMyspaceDayz]

I know a handful of people who never buy PPV’s anymore because of Mayweather. I don’t know a single one who he turned into a fan.

[TMLT87]

Boxing was already in a steep commercial decline in the 2000s before Floyd blew up off the back of the ODH fight. That dual combo of Floyd and Pac breaking into the mainstream around the same time and being pitted against each other from afar actually boosted boxings profile and carried it on PPV through the late 2000s and the first half of the 2010s.

[ruedboy]

Too much emotion both ways with Floyd. Fans either love him or hate him. Floyd's either TBE or a "Fraud".
The truth is somewhere in the middle. Floyd was a master at avoiding punches and taking the other fighter out of his game but as he aged, he held way too much and seemed to throw fewer and fewer combinations. Finally, Floyd took advantage of being the "A" side fighter as least as good as any fighter in modern times.

[Citizen Koba]

The idea that any single boxer is responsible for the business model of boxing that evolved in the US over the 90s / 00s is beyond absurd. I ain't made a proper study of the subject so I freely admit my ideas might be wrong in detail (and I invite criticism) but the way I see it what I call the 'Vegas superstar (or cash cow)' model evolved over the course of a coupla decades to provide both the leading promoter of the time (Arum), the gaming and entertainment moguls of Vegas and the principal distributor (HBO) a dependable and regular influx of profit. It wasn't begun with Oscar but it kinda reached the form it did whilst he was the cash cow... Floyd merely inherited that mantle and did exactly what every fighter should be trying to do... maximise his gains at the expense of the dudes who really run the sport. He didn't make it that way he simply took advantage of the system as it existed... he was only able to do so because it was also in the interests of Vegas and - for a substantial period - Arum and HBO too.

I don't blame any fighter for trying to maximise their income - for all the bullish about glory and honour or whatever professional boxing is foremost a livelihood - I blame the greed of Vegas, of the Sanctioning orgs and promoters who enabled and facilitated privilege and corruption in boxing to line their own pockets... I'd go into more depth about exactly how damaging I believe the 'superstar model' has been - and remains - for the sport as a whole but I think I've probably ranted enough for now. Maybe another time...

[Slicc]

I feel like some fighters just learned the wrong lessons from Floyd. They saw the bravado, the money and the women, forgetting the grueling work he had to put in for that. Early on, Floyd had to fight for money even prospects wouldn't take nowadays, and practically lived in the gym. Hell, he's still in the gym now, and he retired. His ticket to stardom was the Oscar match, which he had to give up a bunch of advantages to put together. I do believe that Floyd pushed undefeated status a little too hard, even having a match with an MMA fighter count towards his record.

Tldr: Some fighters wanna be Money Mayweather without being Pretty Boy Floyd first.

[The tucker]

Lol picture boxing without mayweather. If he was so bad for the sport why did he bring the most money into the sport.

[Thunderstruck]

Don’t knock a guy who took control of his career and marketing and put himself in a position to dictate.