Comments Thread For: Hearn Talks Fury-Joshua Meeting, Joshua-Pulev, Wilder, Whyte, More

[W1LL]

I hope AJ and Hearn keep their word this time.

[IRONCHINHAGLER]

and fury wouldn’t have done numbers without wilder. Bottom line both were apart of a PPV that grossed more revenue than any fight AJs was ever involved in

bottom line - Aj and Fury are the biggest draws now ....Wilder has pretty much been exposed as the Pbc protected Hw with the extremely padded record He was and is!!

[Roberto Vasquez]

you do know Haymon have made been involved in the top 5 highest grossing fights in the history of the sport so it’s pretty disingenuous to pretend Haymon doesn’t have $50M. Stop the anti wilder Uk bias. Wilder and Fury presented the same situation to AJ and Hearn agreed to the financials with Fury but refused to when undisputed involved wilder smh

Fury already turned down a fight with AJ in Jan or April 2019. Wilder aleady turned down a fight with AJ to fight Ortiz a second time. At the time AJ had all the belts apart from the WBC. Go figure out the truth for yourself..

Haymon having 50M is not the same as him wanting to make it available to fight Joshua. So if Joshua was going to get 50M how much was Wilder going to get then? Was he going to fight for free?

And why does this even matter if Wilder has turned down AJ since then? That time he wouldn't have even had to give AJ 50M! Wilder would have become unified champion....but instead he fought a 40 year old Ortiz and a retired and fat Fury. Neither of whom had any belts.

[Roberto Vasquez]

I hope AJ and Hearn keep their word this time.

You mean like how Fury gave Dillian Whyte his word - he would fight him if it was the WBC Diamond belt.

There's only one fighter who has been avoiding top-10 boxers like the plague and it's not AJ.....

[Dasmius Shinobi]

Patience, we need more patience.

This thread is full of bias and hardcore fan fighters. Who the fuck have the time to sit in a computers or write each time minimum, less in 30 minutes to make a defense like a lawyer. Sometimes I wonder and this is not a joke, If they paid someone to defend and mount a case with certain fighters. The fight is going to happen not matter what, If Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury don't lost during the build up. People fighting about who attract more fans, money offers, contracts and the list go on.

[Cool Scant]

Fury already turned down a fight with AJ in Jan or April 2019. Wilder aleady turned down a fight with AJ to fight Ortiz a second time. At the time AJ had all the belts apart from the WBC. Go figure out the truth for yourself..

Haymon having 50M is not the same as him wanting to make it available to fight Joshua. So if Joshua was going to get 50M how much was Wilder going to get then? Was he going to fight for free?

And why does this even matter if Wilder has turned down AJ since then? That time he wouldn't have even had to give AJ 50M! Wilder would have become unified champion....but instead he fought a 40 year old Ortiz and a retired and fat Fury. Neither of whom had any belts.

The fight was worth $100M so why would wilder have fought for free?

“Shelly Finkel, who manages Wilder along with Al Haymon and trainer Jay Deas, said the offer is for $50 million against 50 percent of the event revenue, meaning Joshua would make no less than that figure no matter how much the fight generated. If the fight generated more than $100 million, which Finkel believes it could, Joshua would make even more, and if it lost money, the Wilder side would be on the hook to pay Joshua.“ https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.esp...3fplatform=amp

I’m sure you can fight out what wilder was getting based on that quote.

Wilder turned down AJs offers because they were terrible. Why do AJ fans think that just because he send an offer the opponent must take it?

[Cool Scant]

bottom line - Aj and Fury are the biggest draws now ....Wilder has pretty much been exposed as the Pbc protected Hw with the extremely padded record He was and is!!

Fury v Wilder III will be a success in part because of wilder, therefore he’s still a draw. You better hope for your sanity wilder loses the third fight so you don’t have to create excuses for why AJ won’t fight him.

[Cool Scant]

You think they didn't want the Wilder fight because they only offered Wilder a $100 million? Wilder always talked about AJ being unwilling to fight him and being desperate for a chance (to the point of crying) then when he's offered $100 million and a chance to do everything that he was supposedly desperate to do he welches on the deal to fight Breazeale for next to nothing (not even a PPV event). Wilder could have had it all, proven himself the king of the division, as he always insisted he was, AND picked up $100 million. Apparently that wasn't enough. Does that make sense to you? Does that honestly seem like the behaviour of someone who wants the fight?

Dude, you are a dreamer. WAKE UP!

I'm not trying to "muddy the waters" I'm trying to spell out in simple terms something which should be common sense. No sane business person would ever be put into the position Hearn was asked to be put in ahead of such a massive contract. Let's remember that Hearn was actually in New York and tried to meet with Finkel et al, but was told that it "would not be productive". Apparently he could not even talk to Wilder's team on the phone and this was not denied by Wilder's side.

Meeting in person to talk about getting a deal done would "not be productive"

This is not how people do business. This is not how people act when they want to get a deal done. I appreciate that you either cannot see or are refusing to see that. I'm not getting a sense that I'm getting through to you in any way so I'll leave it at that.

This whole thread has reminded me of so many occasion just trying to get some basic common sense into Wilder fans' heads and failing miserably.

AJ and Hearn didnt want the fight because they offered wilder a bs flat fee and refused to disclosed the split!! also AJ didn’t sign to fight wilder and wasn’t signed to DAZN so how motivated was AJ to really fight wilder?

I never say $100M wasn’t enough (act it was $40M per AJ fight). $100M sounds great until wilder found out it was 20% of the pot. You say wilder fought Breazeale for next to nothing which is a lie. He made $9.5M for Breazeale if you think that’s chump change please post an AJ purse verified by someone other than Eddie Hearn where he’s made more.

Finkel said the meeting wouldn’t be productive until AJ accepted the money that he asked for which was $50M. Why does Hearn need a meeting when Wilder offered AJ exactly what he asked for? Finke told Hearn accept the $50M then they can have a meeting to negotiate the rest of the details. Wilder hater make it seem like Finkel refused to ever meet with Hearn which is not true. AJ and Hearn just accepted a 50/50 split without a meeting or any other details. So in all actuality AJ accepted a worse deal from fury than wilder under the same circumstances smh

[Roberto Vasquez]

The fight was worth $100M so why would wilder have fought for free?

“Shelly Finkel, who manages Wilder along with Al Haymon and trainer Jay Deas, said the offer is for $50 million against 50 percent of the event revenue, meaning Joshua would make no less than that figure no matter how much the fight generated. If the fight generated more than $100 million, which Finkel believes it could, Joshua would make even more, and if it lost money, the Wilder side would be on the hook to pay Joshua.“ https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.esp...3fplatform=amp

I’m sure you can fight out what wilder was getting based on that quote.

Wilder turned down AJs offers because they were terrible. Why do AJ fans think that just because he send an offer the opponent must take it?

AJ against Wilder wouldn't have made 100M back then! Neither AJ or Wilder were big names. Aj was big in the UK only and no one much outside boxing even knew who Wilder was. I mean you really believe that was 100M fight back then?? Wilder's best win was against an old Ortiz. No one knows Ortiz. Where would they know him from? That's why I believe Hearns when he said Wilder's team couldn't provide proof of funds

Not the email came from Wilder and not his team and said "Please accept the fight tomorrow". Really sounds like a real offer...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFlWizD6YOI

That's funny because Wilder said on video - he was turning them down because he didn't want to fight AJ anymore. Then later after he booked himself up for 2 fights - Wilder said "be patient I will fight AJ in 2020"

[Cool Scant]

AJ against Wilder wouldn't have made 100M back then! Neither AJ or Wilder were big names. Aj was big in the UK only and no one much outside boxing even knew who Wilder was. I mean you really believe that was 100M fight back then?? Wilder's best win was against an old Ortiz. No one knows Ortiz. Where would they know him from? That's why I believe Hearns when he said Wilder's team couldn't provide proof of funds

Not the email came from Wilder and not his team and said "Please accept the fight tomorrow". Really sounds like a real offer...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFlWizD6YOI

That's funny because Wilder said on video - he was turning them down because he didn't want to fight AJ anymore. Then later after he booked himself up for 2 fights - Wilder said "be patient I will fight AJ in 2020"

AJ said if they think the fight is worth $100M give me $50M and I’ll sign tomorrow. Therefore team wilder gave him a 24 hour deadline based on AJ statement. But it was a 24 hour deadline because the offer was given in April and still available in June.

Multiple boxing insiders said they seen proof the $50M is real. Hearn has never been involved in a top 5 grossing fight of all time. Haymon has $50M I’m not sure about Hearn.

AJ played games during the first negotiations that’s why wilder moved on with his career. I don’t see what’s so hard to understand about that.