Comments Thread For: Hearn Talks Fury-Joshua Meeting, Joshua-Pulev, Wilder, Whyte, More

[IRONCHINHAGLER]

doesn’t matter Haymon still had the money to cut Mayweather a $100M Cheque the night of the pacquiao fight. So it’s obvious he has $50M.

Speaking of wilder you do know that the second fury fight grossed more money than any fight Hearn as ever promoted. Smh

Thanks to Fury!! Wilder couldn’t sniff Ppv b4 Fury - had majority of title fights in a barn in Hicksville,Alabama despite over 40 fights and years as US HW champ!! Probably the most unpopular multi year US HW champ EVER!!

[IRONCHINHAGLER]

that did not stop them from ducking Wilder

and they have shown little/no genuine interest in Fury

they still got Whyte running block for AJ, like they did with Wilder

makes zero sense - along with Wilders pathetic, protected, padded resume!

[Cool Scant]

Thanks to Fury!! Wilder couldn’t sniff Ppv b4 Fury - had majority of title fights in a barn in Hicksville,Alabama despite over 40 fights and years as US HW champ!! Probably the most unpopular multi year US HW champ EVER!!

Sorry But wilder does better number than fury does without wilder. Fury was barely selling 3k seat at the arena without wilder smh

[Cool Scant]

Because in legal terms they are completely different. As you point out, one is accepting a "SPLIT" and one is accepting an "OFFER". Sparing some minor details, to create a binding legal contract you need

• an offer
• acceptance of that offer

This doesn't have to be in writing which is why you can create verbal contracts.

In the Wilder case, not only would Hearn be possibly be entering into a binding legal contract of which he wasn't aware of the terms, he would also put himself into an incredibly weak negotiating position which would completely prejudice the interests of his own client (Joshua). You can easily imagine terms entering into the contract that Hearn and Joshua would not be happy with, and Hearn being told "you accepted the offer!", that's not a comfortable position for any business person to be in and frankly you can hardly expect someone to enter into a contract on those grounds.

Compare that with accepting a monetary split with details to be sorted out later... that's NEGOTIATION of the contract, which is standard practice in basically any commercial contract. This happens before you accept the offer.

So, on the one hand you've got entering into a binding legal contract (which the parties will be contractually locked into) and on the other hand you've got continuing with negotiations for a contract (which either party can pull out of at any time).

They are completely different things. Your original argument rested on the fact that they are one and the same, but I'm sure you can see that you're actually on very flimsy ground here.




Dude, it's ONE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS. At what point do you realise that this is a good deal? If they offered $50 Billion you'd still be saying "yeah, but it's a flat fee tho, no thanks I'm gonna go fight some nobody called Dominic Breazeale for peanuts"

I'm sure that they gave a flat fee so that Wilder would be exposed if he turned it down; which is what happened. A fighter turning down a $100m contract is likely to get more traction in the press.

way to muddy the waters 🤣 in regards to the wilder offer. Nobody was trying to get Hearn to accept a legally binding contract. Finkel wanted Hearn to accept the offer AJ asked for which is the $50M. Once AJ accepted the $50M finkel was willing to work out the deal and send a contract. https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-m...ntract--127631
If Hearn doesn’t agree with the terms negotiated then AJ doesn’t have to sign the contract.
Hopefully you realize that the $100M flat fee offer was a publicity stunt as per your own statement. Like Finkel said, $100M sounds like a good offer until you find out that Joshua is making $200M smh If the $100M flat fee is a great offer why didn’t hearn provide that same offer to fury? All of AJs opponent received splits but Hearn offers wilder flat fees. Both Hearns didn’t want the wilder fight.

[aboutfkntime]

way to muddy the waters 🤣 in regards to the wilder offer. Nobody was trying to get Hearn to accept a legally binding contract. Finkel wanted Hearn to accept the offer AJ asked for which is the $50M. Once AJ accepted the $50M finkel was willing to work out the deal and send a contract. https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-m...ntract--127631
If Hearn doesn’t agree with the terms negotiated then AJ doesn’t have to sign the contract.
Hopefully you realize that the $100M flat fee offer was a publicity stunt as per your own statement. Like Finkel said, $100M sounds like a good offer until you find out that Joshua is making $200M smh If the $100M flat fee is a great offer why didn’t hearn provide that same offer to fury? All of AJs opponent received splits but Hearn offers wilder flat fees. Both Hearns didn’t want the wilder fight.

like I said earlier, when it comes to fighting Fury... they will build roadblocks, lie to the fans, and blurt out silly excuses... just like they did with Wilder

Hearn got Whyte running block for AJ, again

[IRONCHINHAGLER]

Sorry But wilder does better number than fury does without wilder. Fury was barely selling 3k seat at the arena without wilder smh

Of Course - here in the States! Goes w/o saying...but fact remains Wilder couldn’t sniff Ppv w/o Fury. Aj and Fury are much more known globally than Wilder.

[Cool Scant]

like I said earlier, when it comes to fighting Fury... they will build roadblocks, lie to the fans, and blurt out silly excuses... just like they did with Wilder

Hearn got Whyte running block for AJ, again

I don’t believe Hearn will put AJ in with Fury either

[Cool Scant]

Of Course - here in the States! Goes w/o saying...but fact remains Wilder couldn’t sniff Ppv w/o Fury. Aj and Fury are much more known globally than Wilder.

and fury wouldn’t have done numbers without wilder. Bottom line both were apart of a PPV that grossed more revenue than any fight AJs was ever involved in

[LoadedWraps]

Fury has Hearn shook.

[Redgloveman]

way to muddy the waters 🤣 in regards to the wilder offer. Nobody was trying to get Hearn to accept a legally binding contract. Finkel wanted Hearn to accept the offer AJ asked for which is the $50M. Once AJ accepted the $50M finkel was willing to work out the deal and send a contract. https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-m...ntract--127631
If Hearn doesn’t agree with the terms negotiated then AJ doesn’t have to sign the contract.
Hopefully you realize that the $100M flat fee offer was a publicity stunt as per your own statement. Like Finkel said, $100M sounds like a good offer until you find out that Joshua is making $200M smh If the $100M flat fee is a great offer why didn’t hearn provide that same offer to fury? All of AJs opponent received splits but Hearn offers wilder flat fees. Both Hearns didn’t want the wilder fight.

You think they didn't want the Wilder fight because they only offered Wilder a $100 million? Wilder always talked about AJ being unwilling to fight him and being desperate for a chance (to the point of crying) then when he's offered $100 million and a chance to do everything that he was supposedly desperate to do he welches on the deal to fight Breazeale for next to nothing (not even a PPV event). Wilder could have had it all, proven himself the king of the division, as he always insisted he was, AND picked up $100 million. Apparently that wasn't enough. Does that make sense to you? Does that honestly seem like the behaviour of someone who wants the fight?

Dude, you are a dreamer. WAKE UP!

I'm not trying to "muddy the waters" I'm trying to spell out in simple terms something which should be common sense. No sane business person would ever be put into the position Hearn was asked to be put in ahead of such a massive contract. Let's remember that Hearn was actually in New York and tried to meet with Finkel et al, but was told that it "would not be productive". Apparently he could not even talk to Wilder's team on the phone and this was not denied by Wilder's side.

Meeting in person to talk about getting a deal done would "not be productive"

This is not how people do business. This is not how people act when they want to get a deal done. I appreciate that you either cannot see or are refusing to see that. I'm not getting a sense that I'm getting through to you in any way so I'll leave it at that.

This whole thread has reminded me of so many occasion just trying to get some basic common sense into Wilder fans' heads and failing miserably.