Comments Thread For: De La Hoya on Canelo Negotiations: You Have To Beat The Champ To Make Champion Money

[Greenfield02]

The irony of Oscar's "you have to beat the champ to make champion money" statement is that at 168, 2 of the guys who claim they're being lowballed have legit titles in the division while Canelo has a fake unrecognized title.

Have those fighters won multiple titles in multiple weight divisions and sold millions in PPV? Or multi millions in live gates? That would be a big fat No... Your always on here hating on Canelo, he must make you feel very insecure...

[Jab jab boom]

Have those fighters won multiple titles in multiple weight divisions and sold millions in PPV? Or multi millions in live gates? That would be a big fat No... Your always on here hating on Canelo, he must make you feel very insecure...

that's not what Oscar said did he? He said "champion" , the fight is being proposed at 168, Canelo is not really a champion there. Now had Oscar said that Canelo is the most popular fighter with the most adult male groupies (a fan girl club you're clearly a member of) then that'd be more accurate. But what he said wasn't factually correct.

[champion4ever]

It's obvious Canelo wants to cherrypick. He doesn't want to face stiff and live challengers at this time. First, he ducked Jermall Charlo and then Demetrius Andrade.

Then subsequently, both Billy Joe Saunders, Callum Smith and David Lemieux have all priced themselves out of a fight with him. It was a strategic ploy and bait by Golden Boy to not fight them and like fools they took the bait. They should have called Canelo's bluff.

Now the only one is left is Caleb Plant and Alvarez would be a fool to take that fight because Plant is the natural bigger man who poses very serious match up problems for Canelo Alvarez. He is a boxer/counter puncher who sticks and move and throws punches from a distance.

[Greenfield02]

that's not what Oscar said did he? He said "champion" , the fight is being proposed at 168, Canelo is not really a champion there. Now had Oscar said that Canelo is the most popular fighter with the most adult male groupies (a fan girl club you're clearly a member of) then that'd be more accurate. But what he said wasn't factually correct.

Oh, I hit a nerve...

[Greenfield02]

It's obvious Canelo wants to cherrypick. He doesn't want to face stiff and live challengers at this time. First, he ducked Jermall Charlo and then Demetrius Andrade.

Then subsequently, both Billy Joe Saunders, Callum Smith and David Lemieux have all priced themselves out of a fight with him. It was a strategic ploy and bait by Golden Boy to not fight them and like fools they took the bait. They should have called Canelo's bluff.

Now the only one is left is Caleb Plant and Alvarez would be a fool to take that fight because Plant is the natural bigger man who poses very serious match up problems for Canelo Alvarez. He is a boxer/counter puncher who sticks and move and throws punches from a distance.

If champion4ever said it, it must be true...

[kushking]

If champion4ever said it, it must be true...

My thoughts exactly,we all know how informed & neutral he is. Like the time he claimed Canelo ducked not only Charlo(),but also BooBoo & everyone else like PLANT everyone knows Plant/Charlo didn't make absolute buffoons out of themselves when it was exposed they ducked their by far highest paydays to fight bums for peanuts,that wasn't reported all over PBC boxing channels.... oh wait. Lmao

[boliodogs]

It is obvious why Canelo has no opponent yet. Team Canelo and Oscar want to keep all the money and pay his opponent an insultingly low amount of money. Notice that Oscar NEVER says how much money Canelo will get and how much money the potential opponent is being offered. If Oscar was to say what Canelo will get and what the opponent would get then everyone would know it is team Canelo's own fault they have no opponent yet. As for Oscar saying you must beat the champ to make champ money that is more BS. Saunders, Smith and Plant don't have to beat the champ because they already are champions. Oscar wants them to put their world title on the line in Canelo friendly Vegas for peanuts.

[Laypipe]

Lameiux is borderline solid recognizable legit opponent. Anyone less no.

[boliodogs]

He’s right. These fighters are afraid to bet on themselves. They know they will take that L so they demand top dollar so they can duck the fight.
If they believed they can win they would take the fight at what is being offered knowing when they win they can call their own shots.
Floyd was paying guys like Guerrero and Maidana a flat rate with no PPV upside but they took it because even in a loss they raised their profile and wouldn’t take much damage.
These guys know they will lose to Canelo and take a beating at the same time.

If the offers were fair and the fighters turned them down then what you say about them would be true. The problem is nobody but Oscar knows how much these boxers were offered. If the offers were too low they were right to turn them down. Do you know how much Saunders, Smith and Plant were offered to fight Canelo? If you do then please let us all know. I have read everything i could on this subject and have never once read how much these boxers were offered and turned down. If these offers were so good then why keep the amount a secret?

[boliodogs]

Lameiux is borderline solid recognizable legit opponent. Anyone less no.

Lemieux is a vicious puncher with both hands and I doubt Canelo really wants to fight him. Of course Canelo would be a big favorite but Lemieux is a far better opponent than Ryder who is coming of a loss and has almost no chance to beat Canelo.