Smaller Fighters Beat Bigger Fighters All the Time, Yet the Boxing World MUM About IT

[Thuglife Nelo]

Pacquiao is actually a tall Filipino boxer imo, if we go by their historical consistency. Pac is like 5’5. Average Filipino is 5’1 and men are 5’4.

That’s why Pac in his earlier fights as a teen was TOWERING full sized and seasoned guys whereas PAC looked anorexic... Pac was 5’5 at 16 years of age. He had a huge advantage over most in those classes. Lol

It’s a weird thing with Pac because he was getting handled and KO’d earlier in his career and nearly got stopped by jab...saved by the ref.

Those baby weights have increments like 3lbs... imo it’s easy to move around those weights. Your problem is if you’re not 5’5 from the get go.

[MONGOOSE66]

For people that have been to boxing gyms, how many times have you seen small guys beat up on big guys?

You don't even have to go to a boxing gym, go to youtube and I am sure you'd find plenty of videos supporting the argument.

We've seen Devin Haney handle Shawn Porter. Teofimo Lopez handling Ugas, same with Linares beating Ugas. There are so many, many cases.

Look at Pacquiao who moved up from 100 something pounds and went all the way up to beat up Margarito something viscous. How many fighters have gone up in weight and have had success?!?!?! Now how many fighters have gone down in weight and have found success?!?!?!

Yet, boxing heads, fans, commentators always talk about size and weight and yes there are examples where the smaller man lost, there are a quite a few but how many more examples are there where the smaller man won.

There are guys who have moved up 40 plus pounds both in the pro ranks and the amateurs who have become world and olympic champions.

I've seen flyweights beat up on welterweights in the gym, middleweights beating up heavyweights, and NO the welterweights and heavyweights weren't some bums off the streets that just started boxing.

Like George Foreman once said on and HBO broadcast, "boxing is a small man's sport" or something along those lines.

Examples of current fighters who are P4P and who have moved up in weight - Terrence Crawford, Lomachenko and Canelo Alvarez.

So why is nobody talking about it?

Hmmm, sparring don’t count also glove size changes EVERYTHING.
TALENT/speed being equal. I’ll pick the bigger man in a REAL fight where both men are in fighting shape.
Theirs a reason why they have weight classes.

[pesticid]

No I didn't....... Tyson's skills were diminished by the time he fought Holyfield.

Haye and Wlad were both virtually equal in skill.

Haye of equal skill to Wlad? LOL

How about Haye vs Valuev?

Bellew coming up to fight Haye both times?

Speaking of equal skill, I think Chisora and Haye are about at an equal skill level. You know what I think, Chisora might be more skillful actually, just a little bit. How about that fight then?

[pesticid]

Hmmm, sparring don’t count also glove size changes EVERYTHING.
TALENT/speed being equal. I’ll pick the bigger man in a REAL fight where both men are in fighting shape.
Theirs a reason why they have weight classes.

Sparring does count dude, some people have died in sparring. A lot of brain injuries in boxing come as a result of sparring wars

[pesticid]

Pacquiao is actually a tall Filipino boxer imo, if we go by their historical consistency. Pac is like 5’5. Average Filipino is 5’1 and men are 5’4.

That’s why Pac in his earlier fights as a teen was TOWERING full sized and seasoned guys whereas PAC looked anorexic... Pac was 5’5 at 16 years of age. He had a huge advantage over most in those classes. Lol

It’s a weird thing with Pac because he was getting handled and KO’d earlier in his career and nearly got stopped by jab...saved by the ref.

Those baby weights have increments like 3lbs... imo it’s easy to move around those weights. Your problem is if you’re not 5’5 from the get go.

Good point, Pacman wasn't as devastating at the lower weight classes cause he wasn't fighting bigger guys. He obviously improved a lot throughout the years too

[Get em up]

For people that have been to boxing gyms, how many times have you seen small guys beat up on big guys?

You don't even have to go to a boxing gym, go to youtube and I am sure you'd find plenty of videos supporting the argument.

We've seen Devin Haney handle Shawn Porter. Teofimo Lopez handling Ugas, same with Linares beating Ugas. There are so many, many cases.

Look at Pacquiao who moved up from 100 something pounds and went all the way up to beat up Margarito something viscous. How many fighters have gone up in weight and have had success?!?!?! Now how many fighters have gone down in weight and have found success?!?!?!

Yet, boxing heads, fans, commentators always talk about size and weight and yes there are examples where the smaller man lost, there are a quite a few but how many more examples are there where the smaller man won.

There are guys who have moved up 40 plus pounds both in the pro ranks and the amateurs who have become world and olympic champions.

I've seen flyweights beat up on welterweights in the gym, middleweights beating up heavyweights, and NO the welterweights and heavyweights weren't some bums off the streets that just started boxing.

Like George Foreman once said on and HBO broadcast, "boxing is a small man's sport" or something along those lines.

Examples of current fighters who are P4P and who have moved up in weight - Terrence Crawford, Lomachenko and Canelo Alvarez.

So why is nobody talking about it?

There is absolutely no way I would put money on Gary Russell Jr to beat even a Charlo brother. Either brother. Or any good small guy against a good big guy. 99 times out of a 100 the good big guy beats the good small guy.

Being in a gym setting and sparring is not the same thing as a real sanctioned fight. It's not even close.

[pesticid]

There is absolutely no way I would put money on Gary Russell Jr to beat even a Charlo brother. Either brother. Or any good small guy against a good big guy. 99 times out of a 100 the good big guy beats the good small guy.

Being in a gym setting and sparring is not the same thing as a real sanctioned fight. It's not even close.

How about Errol Spence vs the Charlos or Terrence Crawford vs the Charlos, Pacman, Thurman, Garcia and Porter vs the Charlos sparring or sanctioned?

PS: how about Gary Russell Jr vs Crawford lol?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIncrHwjTHQ

How about DLH getting outboxed by tiny Ivan Calderon lol?

[kafkod]

For people that have been to boxing gyms, how many times have you seen small guys beat up on big guys?

You don't even have to go to a boxing gym, go to youtube and I am sure you'd find plenty of videos supporting the argument.

We've seen Devin Haney handle Shawn Porter. Teofimo Lopez handling Ugas, same with Linares beating Ugas. There are so many, many cases.

Look at Pacquiao who moved up from 100 something pounds and went all the way up to beat up Margarito something viscous. How many fighters have gone up in weight and have had success?!?!?! Now how many fighters have gone down in weight and have found success?!?!?!

Yet, boxing heads, fans, commentators always talk about size and weight and yes there are examples where the smaller man lost, there are a quite a few but how many more examples are there where the smaller man won.

There are guys who have moved up 40 plus pounds both in the pro ranks and the amateurs who have become world and olympic champions.

I've seen flyweights beat up on welterweights in the gym, middleweights beating up heavyweights, and NO the welterweights and heavyweights weren't some bums off the streets that just started boxing.

Like George Foreman once said on and HBO broadcast, "boxing is a small man's sport" or something along those lines.

Examples of current fighters who are P4P and who have moved up in weight - Terrence Crawford, Lomachenko and Canelo Alvarez.

So why is nobody talking about it?

Ok, let's talk about it.

According to your theory ...

Loma would beat Crawford and Canelo.

Crawford would beat Canelo and Beterbiev.

Beterbiev would beat everybody at cruiserweight and heavyweight.

They would ALL beat Fury and AJ.

Does that seem right to you?

[SplitSecond]

Just look at the expectations on Spence to destroy Mikey Garcia, come fight night he could barely get through his defense. Bellew was at the risk of dying vs Haye, his head was due to explode on contact, took Haye’s punch and beat him.

Usually the issue I see for smaller fighter’s (not including the prospect of them simply not being good enough) is adding to much weight. The best strat is always just go for peak performance. If you start to slow down, stop the weight gain.

It goes without saying that there is reaching too far.

[The D3vil]

Man, this is a bizarre post.

Smaller fighters do not be larger fighters "all the time"

Great fighters beat fighters who are not as great, negating their size advantage.

Duran, Pacquiao, Tyson, Holyfield, etc . . . are Hall of Famer fighters, who regularly beat up bigger dudes because they're just that great that they can compensate for their lack of size.

Canelo's not going to be beating up Tyson Fury anytime soon.

If your theory was true, there'd be no need for weight classes because Chocolatito would be heavyweight champion

And in gyms, most of those guys are not boxing full time, so a little guy may be wayyyyyy better than a larger dude who just comes to the gym on weekends or just started or something.