Foreman vs Frazier 1 - Reaction in today's era?

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  • PRINCEKOOL
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    #11
    Originally posted by REDEEMER
    This is a very false narrative. Frazier never fought Norton ,Shavers or Lyle . Su****iously they were 3 other power punchers other then Foreman.

    Foreman said he ducked Jerry Quarry for whatever reasons and never met Shavers who was said to be his equal as a puncher and so on and you never got that Holmes vs Foreman fight either ,the 1970”s is built into an extraordinary era but the truth is it was not as filled and wasn’t really any different to the current era now because fights didn’t just happen overnight either,you didn’t see the best fight each other again until years apart as well . Today’s era is filled with younger prime guys ,Ali was past his prime in many of his fights in the 70”s so I don’t even know you can call it a better era when the top 3 guys are not past their peak yet and the majority of the top guys are still developing and not worn down .

    The era is still young , the only 2 fights that haven’t happened is Fury vs AJ or AJ vs Wilder but you got rematches that took place very quickly while AJ was fighting top guys he’s never defended against anyone outside the top 10 And unlike the 70”s there’s a multitude of sanctioning bodies now it is not so easy and simple like those days .
    This era is pretty much over, Fury vs Joshua is the decider that will determine who is number 1 'If Fury loses badly, he will disappear'.

    Wilder is already self combusting, none of these guys accept Anthony Joshua have appetite to fight. Tyson Fury is just cashing in, as soon as the going gets tough 'I honestly think he will retire'.

    If Tyson Fury suffered the same kind of defeat that Joshua experienced, he will retire.
    Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 07-15-2020, 01:14 PM.

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    • rudy
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      #12
      Its about how mentally strong you are Nigel Benn lost two of his biggest fights. He came back even better each time and when it mattered won the most dangerous of assisgnment in the G man

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      • REDEEMER
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        #13
        Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
        This era is pretty much over, Fury vs Joshua is the decider that will determine who is number 1 'If Fury loses badly, he will disappear'.

        Wilder is already self combusting, none of these guys accept Anthony Joshua have appetite to fight. Tyson Fury is just cashing in, as soon as the going gets tough 'I honestly think he will retire'.

        If Tyson Fury suffered the same kind of defeat that Joshua experienced, he will retire.
        Wilder and Fury don’t make up an entire division. Usyk, Hrgovic, DDD, Joyce , Mahkmudov, Whyte ,alone will have it fresh not including Sirenko, Yoka , Adeleye or Ajagba among many others who are puncher boxers like a Sonny Conto or Jared Anderson , even Trey Morrison if he commits . You literally have numerous current Top 10 Lingering and top prospects With up coming great talent , this era is finished ? I bet I could list 50 fighters which could well see over 5 years of competitive boxing easily .
        Last edited by REDEEMER; 07-15-2020, 01:57 PM.

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        • Citizen Koba
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          #14
          Originally posted by Wurider
          It's simple those guys all fought each other. They didn't dodge each other or cherry pick every single opponent like many do today. The best fought the best so a loss wasn't the end of the world.
          There's always been plenty of cherry picking and stuff going on, the main difference was that was that it was extremely difficult to make a really substantial payday in previous eras without fighting (or being) the very best available.

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          • drablj
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            #15
            fighters are ok. today fans are bums. that is the problem.

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              #16
              Originally posted by REDEEMER
              This is a very false narrative. Frazier never fought Norton ,Shavers or Lyle . Su****iously they were 3 other power punchers other then Foreman.

              Foreman said he ducked Jerry Quarry for whatever reasons and never met Shavers who was said to be his equal as a puncher and so on and you never got that Holmes vs Foreman fight either ,the 1970”s is built into an extraordinary era but the truth is it was not as filled and wasn’t really any different to the current era now because fights didn’t just happen overnight either,you didn’t see the best fight each other again until years apart as well . Today’s era is filled with younger prime guys ,Ali was past his prime in many of his fights in the 70”s so I don’t even know you can call it a better era when the top 3 guys are not past their peak yet and the majority of the top guys are still developing and not worn down .

              The era is still young , the only 2 fights that haven’t happened is Fury vs AJ or AJ vs Wilder but you got rematches that took place very quickly while AJ was fighting top guys he’s never defended against anyone outside the top 10 And unlike the 70”s there’s a multitude of sanctioning bodies now it is not so easy and simple like those days .
              Correct. Only Ali fought all the best of his era. That is why is is the greatest.

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              • GrandpaBernard
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                #17
                Frazier a tough man to come back from that

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by REDEEMER
                  This is a very false narrative. Frazier never fought Norton ,Shavers or Lyle . Su****iously they were 3 other power punchers other then Foreman.

                  Foreman said he ducked Jerry Quarry for whatever reasons and never met Shavers who was said to be his equal as a puncher and so on and you never got that Holmes vs Foreman fight either ,the 1970”s is built into an extraordinary era but the truth is it was not as filled and wasn’t really any different to the current era now because fights didn’t just happen overnight either,you didn’t see the best fight each other again until years apart as well . Today’s era is filled with younger prime guys ,Ali was past his prime in many of his fights in the 70”s so I don’t even know you can call it a better era when the top 3 guys are not past their peak yet and the majority of the top guys are still developing and not worn down .

                  The era is still young , the only 2 fights that haven’t happened is Fury vs AJ or AJ vs Wilder but you got rematches that took place very quickly while AJ was fighting top guys he’s never defended against anyone outside the top 10 And unlike the 70”s there’s a multitude of sanctioning bodies now it is not so easy and simple like those days .
                  - -There U go waddling about and quacking like Donald Duck...simples!

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                  • Sun_Tzu
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                    #19
                    Honestly, commentators used to perpetrate this back in the day before social media or even the internet. A young undefeated fighter would who was getting some shine would get beat or koed badly and you would hear things like "You have to wonder if you will ever see so and so in the ring again" or "You have to wonder if they will ever recover from this loss". It always confused me, its worse now obviously with the exposure everyone gets but its been going on for decades.

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                    • Willy Wanker
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                      #20
                      People would say Frazier was a hype job who only got overrated because he beat Ali coming out of prison.

                      And they would say Foreman is the greatest ever and he'd KO any HW in history.

                      Everyone is an unbeatable god, until they lose once and become a bum.

                      That's 2020 for you.

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