Foreman vs Frazier 1 - Reaction in today's era?

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  • Oregonian
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    #21
    Originally posted by Nash out
    In seems to be like olden day fighters were allowed to lose and still be looked back on as legends (rightly so), but let's be honest, if Foreman battered Frazier in 2020, Frazier would be getting slaughtered on here and being called nothing more than a bum.

    Norton beating Ali now would be the same. Ali is overrated, overhyped, etc. Just like now that Fury has beaten Wilder, anybody can beat him. People aren't allowed to lose now, that's why everybody in this era is seen as overrated, aww he lost, he's rubbish, whereas tons of losses for past era fighters are just swept under the rug.

    To me, I don't care about top fighters losing to other top fighters, a class fighter is someone who can compete fully at the highest level, regardless of results, modern example, Shaun Porter. But I think we need to accept that these legends we look back on, would get massive stick today for most of the losses they took. It's a double standard and that is counting against the current era getting the respect it deserves.
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    Truer words have never been spoken.
    And absolutely agree 💯 that Porter is the modern day A level elite fighter. The guy looks spectacular in losses.

    If Frazier was competing today, these casuals would eat him alive.

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      #22
      Maskaev had many KO losses before becoming a world champ by the age of 37..

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        #23
        Anthony Joshua was knocked out by Andy Ruiz.

        Andy Ruiz is a very mediocre fighter.

        Wilder didn’t land a punch as a HW champ.

        Different eras, different criteria but the criticisms are valid.

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          #24
          Originally posted by boogbx
          Anthony Joshua was knocked out by Andy Ruiz.

          Andy Ruiz is a very mediocre fighter.

          Wilder didn’t land a punch as a HW champ.

          Different eras, different criteria but the criticisms are valid.
          I'd say Andy Ruiz would give Mike Tyson a great fight in shape, without a doubt. Douglas was a very mediocre fighter and he boxed rings around Tyson, even if it wasn't Tyson at his very best, he was near his best and he struggled with the style, range and boxing ability of a half decent boxer in Douglas.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Nash out
            I'd say Andy Ruiz would give Mike Tyson a great fight in shape, without a doubt. Douglas was a very mediocre fighter and he boxed rings around Tyson, even if it wasn't Tyson at his very best, he was near his best and he struggled with the style, range and boxing ability of a half decent boxer in Douglas.
            I’d favor Frank Bruno over Joshua and we saw what Tyson did to Him.

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