Floyd level with the 4 kings says Leonard

[*TonyMontana*]

Not that I'm saying these two guys are on the level of Hearns. I preface with that. But the two times I've seen Floyd face tall lanky power punchers he knocked them out. That being Corrales and Ndou. I know Ndou is now a butt of jokes but going into the fight he was a dangerous opponent. And we know how great Corrales was leading into the Floyd fight. My point is, don't totally disregard Floyd's opportunity of beating Hearns.

Ah I'm not I just think out the 4 hearns style could be an issue for floyd although
Hearns fighting too wild would definitely be taken advantage of by floyd

Would have been a great fight

[*TonyMontana*]

I think Tommy is all wrong for him. Unless Floyd could really hurt Tommy I don't see Floyd beating him. Tommy's reach advantage, power, speed, and ring smarts would be too much for Floyd. Not saying he's superior to Floyd in each of those departments but the combination of them would seal the deal for Tommy. I think Tommy knocks him out.

It's the speed and crazy reach that makes me think he could beat floyd

Unpredictable style

[Combat Talk Radio]

LOL at this talking Mayweather would have any chance against Hagler. Mayweather never fought a real middleweight and some of you think he would beat arguably the best middleweight ever.

Castillo, Corrales ??? In debate about 4 kings? Just no, please.

Just stop hyping your guy.

I know you think Hagler's perfect - then explain him taking an L to Bobby Watts? Bobby MF'n Watts??

Matter fact, I'll help you. From Hagler's OWN mouth that night:

"That's why boxing has a bad name. I never saw anything like it. He didn't take a round from me. All he did was hold...like a girl." -Marvin Hagler

Hagler couldn't STAND fighters that clinched and he would lose his temper, which caused every single one of his losses.

What do you think Floyd used to nullify Manny and Chino besides range? I'll wait.

[TonyGe]

I know you think Hagler's perfect - then explain him taking an L to Bobby Watts? Bobby MF'n Watts??

Matter fact, I'll help you. From Hagler's OWN mouth that night:

"That's why boxing has a bad name. I never saw anything like it. He didn't take a round from me. All he did was hold...like a girl." -Marvin Hagler

Hagler couldn't STAND fighters that clinched and he would lose his temper, which caused every single one of his losses.

What do you think Floyd used to nullify Manny and Chino besides range? I'll wait.

Both those guys aren't as physically strong as Hagler. Duran tried it and lost in a great fight.

[BoxingTrav]

Ah I'm not I just think out the 4 hearns style could be an issue for floyd although
Hearns fighting too wild would definitely be taken advantage of by floyd

Would have been a great fight

I think so as well

[RL_GMA]

First of all, we're talking about regardless of weight, skill-to-skill.

People are forgetting:

Canelo was naturally bigger
De La Hoya was naturally bigger
Castillo was naturally bigger
Corrales was bigger
Chicanito was bigger
Chop Chop was naturally bigger
N'Dou was naturally bigger
McGregor was WAY bigger (and yes, he counts)


Hell, Floyd arguably performed BETTER against bigger guys. One need only look at De La Hoya who was forced to fight down to Floyd's level. It was bare even up through the 6th, then Floyd washed him.

Because the thing is, the ONLY way Floyd was ever remotely in any trouble was due to a high work rate (Maidana I, Castillo I, Jesus Chavez, Phillip N'Dou, Emmanuel Burton). Of the Kings, only Hearns had a high work rate early on, but he had no gas tank to keep it up.

Tommy Hearns at 147 was only precise against brawlers. He was nowhere near as precise against pure boxers. He clipped Leonard only because Leonard gassed, yet couldn't finish him. He clipped Hagler but couldn't finish. The same crap would happen with Floyd.

Marvin Hagler is one of the best to lace them up - BUT, he tended to make mistakes in the early rounds that got him caught. Every damn fight. The only opponent I can recall where that didn't happen - somehow - was John 'The Beast' Mugabi. But Mugabi was as 'eye test' as they come and wasn't accurate. Anyone who was accurate, clipped Hagler easily and anyone with a high enough work rate made him uncomfortable. Remember, he lost to Bobby MF'n Watts who was nowhere in his class. The version of Mayweather that walked down Carnelo beats Hagler.

Duran...it'd be like fighting Manny. Nothing else needs to be said. Except that Floyd would have made him quit twice and not lost one like Sugar did.

Leonard/Mayweather is a 50/50 fight BECAUSE neither guy would engage.

You're suggesting Floyd would stop Tommy Hearns because he couldn't stop Hagler or Leonard when he had them hurt and they ended up stopping him? And Ray Leonard wouldn't engage against the smaller guy in Floyd who's never been a puncher at 147? That's ridiculous.

[garfios]

Why DeJesus did and Floyd is better than him, can be done.

styles make fights. DeJesus was a brawler that could hurt with either hand and was a good boxer too. I don't think that floyd could hurt Duran.

[HandsofIron]

I don't know why Hagler even gets brought up since Floyd never fought at 160 and that fight is unrealistic.

Against Duran at 147, Floyd would certainly have a chance. Depending on the version of Duran that shows up, these two could split if they fought twice or more.

Floyd would be competitive with SRL, but would fall short of beating him. SRL would out hustle him in some close rounds and win a decision.

Hearns would be an extremely tough match up for Floyd. You have to go right at Hearns and get inside of him to have a chance. Floyd would be giving up the reach here and just wouldn't be able to do what SRL was able to do in their first match up. Hearns by wide decision or KO if Floyd goes for it.

Yes, Hagler shouldn't even be discussed since he's a middleweight. Wilfred Benitez, the defensive master from that era, is what people should be talking about because Benitez is better than Hagler and they are more closer to size.

[HandsofIron]

Floyd can compete because of his great boxing skills but he loses to all of them - Duran, Leonard, Hearns and Benitez.

Floyd's better than Hagler but Hagler is a middleweight and would be too big for Floyd.

[GrandpaBernard]

Floyd can compete because of his great boxing skills but he loses to all of them - Duran, Leonard, Hearns and Benitez.

Floyd's better than Hagler but Hagler is a middleweight and would be too big for Floyd.

Nah Floyd easily gets Benitez

Duran and Leonard hard ones

Hearns wins

Floyd Hagler joke fight.