How do you judge a fight?

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  • BodyBagz
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    #41
    And the devil shall appear

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    • BodyBagz
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      #42
      An outside the box thought -
      Judges are people
      So is CompuBox

      Do away with judges ?

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      • whollisboxing
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        #43
        Originally posted by Pantera_
        Whoever wins more rounds wins. Or if you ko the other guy.
        That's definitely the basic idea. How do you determine who wins rounds? (as far as how you personally score it)

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        • whollisboxing
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          #44
          Originally posted by BodyBagz
          A baseball analogy -
          team is down 5-0...batter hits a solo home run making it 5-1 (the other team didn't hit a home run. just singles and doubles)....Who is winning ?
          Great analogy and I made this thread because it seems like a lot of people would give more weight to the "home run" (winning a round or two really big), even though the singles and doubles (winning more rounds by a narrow margin) far outweigh it.

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          • whollisboxing
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            #45
            Originally posted by techliam
            This is boxing, not baseball
            It's an analogy though. What they mean is that winning more rounds by a narrow margin should outweigh winning one or two rounds big.

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            • whollisboxing
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              #46
              Originally posted by bullly
              I use Boxing MMA Scoring App to judge the fight.
              With the help of this app in order to judge clean punching criteria I try to count and evaluate every clean punch from both sides. For example ordinary punch - 1 point, if the head snaps back - 2 points, spagetti legs - 3 points. In the end of the round the boxer who gets more points - wins automatically. If the score is equal I can judge other criteria - effective aggression, defence, ring generalship.
              That's really interesting and I never knew about that app. It's interesting you mention the head snapping back too because I could see guys doing lots of neck exercises if that system was implemented. They would need to get better at hiding the effects of a punch.

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              • whollisboxing
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                #47
                Originally posted by Citizen Koba
                By judging rounds. In general, stripped down to it's absolute basics I'm looking for the dude whose landed clean punches had the greatest cumulative effect on the opponent in a given 3 minute stanza. There's nuance, of course, but that's it in a nutshell.
                Simple and to the point. I like it. And the key words are "3-minute stanza" vs. a 36-minute fight.

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                • whollisboxing
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by koolkc107
                  1) Use ALL four scoring criteria with the emphasis- the bottom line criterion holding a little more weight- on the one about clean effective punches. This means defense and ring generalship and effective aggression are all equally weighted; the only criterion that trumps the other three is clean, effective punches.

                  2) 10 pt must with winner getting 10 and loser getting less, usually 9 if there is no knockdown. Even rounds are possible but should not be often scored that way. Knockdowns as ruled by the ref should be counted. Point deductions ruled by the ref should be counted. A judge cannot deduct a point or count a knockdown that is not first so ruled by the referee. However, a judge may score a 10-8 round without anyone being knocked down if the output was overly one-sided or damaging. Before awarding a 10-10 round, ask yourself if you would have preferred being one of the fighters more than the other that round as far as the work done and punches landed. If the answer is yes, award that fighter 10 points and the other 9.

                  3) Split each round into one minute segments. Apply 4 scoring criteria to each minute, and determine which fighter won the segment. The fighter who wins 2 of the 3 segments should ordinarily win that round unless the one segment won by the other fighter included a scored knockdown or was more dominant and active than the other two segments combined. In the case of two minute rounds, decide which fighter won their minute more decisively.

                  4) Avoid scoring blood, especially from cuts accidentally created. However, damage administered by punches can be part of the clean effective punching criterion.

                  5) Avoid going back and changing round scores unless a real error was made.

                  6) Be consistent.
                  Awesome and I plan on breaking each round into one-minute segments from now on. Great job

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                  • whollisboxing
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Smash
                    i dont judge a fight by the colour of their skin but by content of their skills
                    I'm sure Dr. King would be proud of how you judge fights

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                    • Shadoww702
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                      #50
                      I judge fights like everyone else. Close my eyes, open my heart and the fighter I like wins!

                      If that don't work I just look at compubox.

                      J/K but man some ppl on this site CLEARLY dont know how to score fights without being biased.

                      I'm a Canelo fan. And I think he should have 2 loses. One for sure other the draw not to disappointed in...

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