How do you judge a fight?

[BodyBagz]

A baseball analogy -
team is down 5-0...batter hits a solo home run making it 5-1 (the other team didn't hit a home run. just singles and doubles)....Who is winning ?

[techliam]

The guy only lands 1 punch, resulting in a flash knockdown. Dude brushes himself off and proceeds to clobber the guy....still 10-8 ?

Depends what you mean ‘clobber’. Take the knockdown away, would ‘clobber’ the guy mean the round would be 10/8? If yes, then with the KD it would be 9/9 even. 1 pt deducted for fighter A for losing the round, and 1 pt deducted for fighter B for being KD

If no, then the round would be 10/8 for the guy who scored the KD. Putting your opponent on the floor outranks anything else

Btw, at least this is what I was taught. A KD is scored 10/8 because fighter B loses 1 pt for losing the round, and 1 pt for the KD. A KD is always 10/8 because a KD means always you lose the round (unless you were also KD or equivalent)

[techliam]

A baseball analogy -
team is down 5-0...batter hits a solo home run making it 5-1 (the other team didn't hit a home run. just singles and doubles)....Who is winning ?

This is boxing, not baseball

[BodyBagz]

Depends what you mean ‘clobber’. Take the knockdown away, would ‘clobber’ the guy mean the round would be 10/8? If yes, then with the KD it would be 9/9 even. 1 pt deducted for fighter A for losing the round, and 1 pt deducted for fighter B for being KD

If no, then the round would be 10/8 for the guy who scored the KD. Putting your opponent on the floor outranks anything else

Btw, at least this is what I was taught. A KD is scored 10/8 because fighter B loses 1 pt for losing the round, and 1 pt for the KD. A KD is always 10/8 because a KD means always you lose the round (unless you were also KD or equivalent)

We have to score the entire round, though.

If the knockdown wasn't that impressive, I feel I should have the right to score it not as high as a solid knockdown. You can tell what level of knock down it was by how affected the guy is.

When a guy knocked Tito down, that usually meant the other guy is going to sleep.

[BodyBagz]

This is boxing, not baseball

Scoring is scoring

[techliam]

We have to score the entire round, though.

If the knockdown wasn't that impressive, I feel I should have the right to score it not as high as a solid knockdown. You can tell what level of knock down it was by how affected the guy is.

When a guy knocked Tito down, that usually meant the other guy is going to sleep.

I understand why you feel that way, and tbh I agree somewhat. But there are plenty of things that need changing with the sport that we can’t influence, this is one of them

Unfortunately, in a subjective sport, this is one of the areas that is also completely objective. If the referee calls a KD, the round is 10/8. No context required

[BodyBagz]

I understand why you feel that way, and tbh I agree somewhat. But there are plenty of things that need changing with the sport that we can’t influence, this is one of them

Unfortunately, in a subjective sport, this is one of the areas that is also completely objective. If the referee calls a KD, the round is 10/8. No context required

Hence, IMHO. as you pointed out.

[techliam]

Hence, IMHO. as you pointed out.

Yeah, noted
But in this case, if you posted your scores somewhere, you’d have to preface them by saying you are using a different criteria than what the sport officially uses

I think the reason that they don’t ever change the judging criteria (officially) is because they don’t want even more confusion and controversy. But scoring has changed a lot in the US. Today’s judging, with styles like Floyd Mayweather etc, is much different than it was in the 60s for example. It’s just difficult to quantify properly

[BodyBagz]

Yeah, noted
But in this case, if you posted your scores somewhere, you’d have to preface them by saying you are using a different criteria than what the sport officially uses

I think the reason that they don’t ever change the judging criteria (officially) is because they don’t want even more confusion and controversy. But scoring has changed a lot in the US. Today’s judging, with styles like Floyd Mayweather etc, is much different than it was in the 60s for example. It’s just difficult to quantify properly

Scoring handbook in boxing

It's not rare for 3 judges to score a fight 3 different ways. That's an oddity for sports. Every other sport, the scoring is consistent and leaves no room for ambiguity or viewing angle.

[bullly]

I use Boxing MMA Scoring App to judge the fight.
With the help of this app in order to judge clean punching criteria I try to count and evaluate every clean punch from both sides. For example ordinary punch - 1 point, if the head snaps back - 2 points, spagetti legs - 3 points. In the end of the round the boxer who gets more points - wins automatically. If the score is equal I can judge other criteria - effective aggression, defence, ring generalship.