What makes Lomachenko an all time great?

[Lomadeaux]

I dont mean any harm but Lopez nor Commey have even beaten 1 hall of fame boxer so how does beating them make you an ATG??

When you win 3 titles in 3 different weight classes in 12 fights.. the next closest is ODH in 22? Something like that?

Yea... that’s impressive...

Just get over the ****

[*TonyMontana*]

I'm not a huge fan but cant deny hes done things faster than most and in style

Hes gunna be in history books like it or not

[Larry the boss]

When you win 3 titles in 3 different weight classes in 12 fights.. the next closest is ODH in 22? Something like that?

Yea... that’s impressive...

Just get over the ****

I never said that was not impressive..you brought up Lopez and Commey and I asked how would beating them make you an ATG..I think Loma is a hell of a boxer but he is nowhere close to an ATG at this moment

[Rusty Tromboni]

based on what??

And to think there's actually people out there who think Boxing fans are r3tard3d.

[Larry the boss]

And to think there's actually people out there who think Boxing fans are r3tard3d.

Its a real question, what makes Lopez more dangerous then freakin Joe Frazier?? see these types of posts are what make people slam certain boxers because certain fans say outrageous stuff that is not even needed. Loma does not need all the extra hype man, he is a very talented boxer.. All the sudden Lopez is more dangerous then Frazier but a year ago people were laughing at the guy and saying he was just trying to ride Lomas wave

[Rusty Tromboni]

Its a real question, what makes Lopez more dangerous then freakin Joe Frazier?? see these types of posts are what make people slam certain boxers because certain fans say outrageous stuff that is not even needed. Loma does not need all the extra hype man, he is a very talented boxer.. All the sudden Lopez is more dangerous then Frazier but a year ago people were laughing at the guy and saying he was just trying to ride Lomas wave

Alright, you might sound ******, but I actually don't think you are. At least you are man enough to clarify what you mean.

But seriously dude, have you seen Joe Frazier fight? I get a lot of loud mouths on here telling me about fighters they've never seen before. It's fu.cking weird. A lot of weird shyte goes on around here.

- Size matters:
Lopez is BIGGER than Lomachenko. It's actually really unusual for Featherweights to compete at Lightweight. That just tends to be a bridge too far. Pep tried it and lost - it was a little reckless, of course, fighting a top 5 Lw like Angott cold. Saddler, who really was a Lightweight, never even tried it. Everyone talks bout Sanchez's jaw, but would it have looked so impressive if he fought Arguello at 135? Rosario? Tendler?

Conversely, Frazier was smaller than Ali. Shorter and at least 10 pounds lighter. Even Quarry - who was absolutely amazing a very dangerous, but still too small to be fighting great Heavyweights - had him on the back foot early in their fight.
That leads to my next point:

- Joe could be hurt:

Not only did Quarry give hi ma scare, Bonavena dropped Frazier in their first fight. Joe swept the cards, but here's an Olympic Gold Medalist getting dropped by a journeyman.

Ali was actually pillow-fisted. Watch his fight with Mildenberger, then the rematch with Frazier. He almost stopped Joe in the 2nd round!

Foreman is a scary dude, but Joe couldn't even get himself into that fight. In fact, it was never a fight it was always a beatdown. Joe being able to beat Ali, and Foreman failing to do so shows that Frazier was more skilled. But the outcome of their fight showed Foreman was more dangerous.

- Joe's power is overrated and he started dangerously slow: He threw A LOT of leather. He didn't just ruin Mathis, Quarry, and Ali's careers, he ruined their long-term health. His stoppage of of Chuvalo is so gruesome it's beautiful. Bob Foster was so scary that the boogeyman would check under his bed for Bob Foster before going to bed at night, and yet Foster looked like some bum pulled off the street against Frazier. But Frazier was a volume puncher. He had fabulous footwork, some of the best ever, but his assault was more about quantity over quality. Lopez appears to be able to end a fight at any point. And perhaps most importantly he's definitely not a slow-starter, like Joe!


I am not saying Lopez is more skilled than Frazier, but he is far more dangerous, he has advanced at a far more rapid pace, and he's a bigger man with a MUCH bigger punch.


I could do the same with Maxim and Tarver, but I think it's unnecessary. I am just pointing out how DANGEROUS, not how skilled, Lopez is.

[NC Uppercut]

He’s not an atg, but he has been on a historic run

Very good way to look at it Lopez

[NC Uppercut]

He’s white. That’s why he’s been overhyped and prematurely crowned with such superlatives. Same thing with fury. All you have to do is search the threads. You’ve got threads saying fury is an atg who would beat ali and all the other atgs. There are fantasy threads matching loma up against all of the past atgs around his weight as he’s proven to be on their level. It’s really not hard to figure out.




Guess you don’t see threads like these


https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...nko+time+great

Wtf you bringing his color to the table for. None of fet to decide our color, race, national origin, etc..
You sound like a hater.

[NC Uppercut]

Alright, you might sound ******, but I actually don't think you are. At least you are man enough to clarify what you mean.

But seriously dude, have you seen Joe Frazier fight? I get a lot of loud mouths on here telling me about fighters they've never seen before. It's fu.cking weird. A lot of weird shyte goes on around here.

- Size matters:
Lopez is BIGGER than Lomachenko. It's actually really unusual for Featherweights to compete at Lightweight. That just tends to be a bridge too far. Pep tried it and lost - it was a little reckless, of course, fighting a top 5 Lw like Angott cold. Saddler, who really was a Lightweight, never even tried it. Everyone talks bout Sanchez's jaw, but would it have looked so impressive if he fought Arguello at 135? Rosario? Tendler?

Conversely, Frazier was smaller than Ali. Shorter and at least 10 pounds lighter. Even Quarry - who was absolutely amazing a very dangerous, but still too small to be fighting great Heavyweights - had him on the back foot early in their fight.
That leads to my next point:

- Joe could be hurt:

Not only did Quarry give hi ma scare, Bonavena dropped Frazier in their first fight. Joe swept the cards, but here's an Olympic Gold Medalist getting dropped by a journeyman.

Ali was actually pillow-fisted. Watch his fight with Mildenberger, then the rematch with Frazier. He almost stopped Joe in the 2nd round!

Foreman is a scary dude, but Joe couldn't even get himself into that fight. In fact, it was never a fight it was always a beatdown. Joe being able to beat Ali, and Foreman failing to do so shows that Frazier was more skilled. But the outcome of their fight showed Foreman was more dangerous.

- Joe's power is overrated and he started dangerously slow: He threw A LOT of leather. He didn't just ruin Mathis, Quarry, and Ali's careers, he ruined their long-term health. His stoppage of of Chuvalo is so gruesome it's beautiful. Bob Foster was so scary that the boogeyman would check under his bed for Bob Foster before going to bed at night, and yet Foster looked like some bum pulled off the street against Frazier. But Frazier was a volume puncher. He had fabulous footwork, some of the best ever, but his assault was more about quantity over quality. Lopez appears to be able to end a fight at any point. And perhaps most importantly he's definitely not a slow-starter, like Joe!


I am not saying Lopez is more skilled than Frazier, but he is far more dangerous, he has advanced at a far more rapid pace, and he's a bigger man with a MUCH bigger punch.


I could do the same with Maxim and Tarver, but I think it's unnecessary. I am just pointing out how DANGEROUS, not how skilled, Lopez is.

Hope you realize that Joe was fighting blind in one eye for some of your mentioned fights. Wonder if he had 2 eyes vs 1 to fight with.....?
Point being that there are so many things that people fail to even know. It isnt always in the ring that ish goes down to affect a boxers performance...you know what I mean Jabroni

[Nay_Sayer]

Yup. That happens in Boxing.
At least there's no shame in getting dropped by Linares.

Armstrong got dropped by Zivic.
Robinson got dropped by Levine.
Ali got dropped by Cooper.
Fireman got stopped by Young.
Leonard got stopped by Camacho.
Jones got stopped by Tarver.
Mayweather allowed himself to get hustled against the ropes for 12 rounds to avoid getting dropped by Maidana.

Lomachenko has never fought anyone that bad. And not only would he never hit the deck, he'd stop everyone of them early.

Armstrong has names on his resume.
So does Robinson.
So does Ali.
So does Foreman,.
So does Leonard.
So does Jones.
So does Mayweather.

Exactly WHO has Lomafako beaten?