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  • MulaKO
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    #31
    Originally posted by Get em up
    This is the truest statement made about Tyson. Had Cus lived to keep Tyson grounded until he did age I dont think we would see another heavyweight title reign like it for a century if ever. Tyson had everything you could imagine a unstoppable force needed and between Cus dying and Don King he was ripped to shreds by everyday life. One of the saddest success stories in boxing really.


    Cus was his everything
    Actually quite sad

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    • RadChang
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      #32
      Kell Brook comes to mind

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      • Verus
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        #33
        I will add Teofilo Stevenson and all the Cuban greats who did not participate because the Cuban government was opposed to professional sports.

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        • LoadedWraps
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          #34
          Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
          Eddie Hearn affectively derailed Kell Brooks career, fighting Golovkin was completely unnecessary. There is a terminology used in formula 1 'Track position' this is where you are the car in the lead.

          Kell Brook before he fought Golovkin had track position 'He was WBC world champion, and undefeated' who cares if he had never landed the big mega fights, in time if he would of stayed undefeated the big fights would of come his way.

          Fighters will face anyone, that is why sometimes you need promotors or advisors to protect them 'Under Frank Warren Kell Brook would not of faced Golovkin'.

          Completely unnecessary fight which derailed his career 'Plunged him into a dark place, and he has been battling back ever since'.

          Note: Chris Eubank Senior understands how valuable track position is to a fighter, and their state of being. Eubank Senior in my opinion, never really wanted Junior to face Golovkin 'He understand that the fight would of possibly destroyed Junior as a fighter'. But right now as we speak? I would back Chris Eubank Junior to beat Gennady Golovkin, there are multiple big mega fights out there for Chris Eubank Junior 'Soley down to his fathers guidance and protection'.

          I disagree with this take and train of thought entirely.

          I find the notion that you or any fan thinks less of Brook for daring to be great and challenge a fighter no one wanted a piece of, simply because the outcome did not end in his favor, unfair and disgusting.

          I don't rate fighters lower when they lose, only when compared to the fighter they lost to in the same ranking is this relevant.

          True fans don't abandon nor say things like "didn't reach his potential" because a guy gave up a belt, went up a division, and lost to an elite fighter. That raises a fighters stock, it doesn't drop it. The goal of boxing isn't to retire undefeated it's to fight the best you can. If you retire undefeated doing so then hats off, but it is no requirement for acknowledgement.

          I find it disgusting Brook is mentioned so often in here. If you don't see him in the same light as pre Golovkin then that's a problem with you and your expectations as a person, not a flaw or limitation of Brook as a fighter.

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          • lokkebassen123
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            #35
            Originally posted by Bunch Pag
            Good shout..

            As much as Naz Hamed did, he could have ruled the world with dedication and focus..
            Naseem Hamed and Zab Judah were the biggest wasted talents in boxing history in my opinion. Naz could have been so much more with his power and chin he could have been a lineal 3 weight world champ. He never really had the hunger for the sport though. Still second richest boxer from the UK.

            Zab Judah was very talented. Had both speed and power. He fell short everytime he was in a big fight.

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            • Bunch Pag
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              #36
              Originally posted by lokkebassen123
              Naseem Hamed and Zab Judah were the biggest wasted talents in boxing history in my opinion. Naz could have been so much more with his power and chin he could have been a lineal 3 weight world champ. He never really had the hunger for the sport though. Still second richest boxer from the UK.

              Zab Judah was very talented. Had both speed and power. He fell short everytime he was in a big fight.
              I've been and watched a fair few fights live from Eubank, Hatton, calzaghe etc but Naz was the fighter I travelled and saw most of. Not only because hes about 8 mile from me but his whole fighting persona. Hatton and Tszu was about the best atmosphere fight but Naz was the only one kept me glued..

              You could see his love wavering and him sticking his nose in other things (Yemen) which he had no business doing.. his focus was going long before and once he had the loss he may aswell have walked away...

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              • PRINCEKOOL
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                #37
                Originally posted by LoadedWraps

                I disagree with this take and train of thought entirely.

                I find the notion that you or any fan thinks less of Brook for daring to be great and challenge a fighter no one wanted a piece of, simply because the outcome did not end in his favor, unfair and disgusting.

                I don't rate fighters lower when they lose, only when compared to the fighter they lost to in the same ranking is this relevant.

                True fans don't abandon nor say things like "didn't reach his potential" because a guy gave up a belt, went up a division, and lost to an elite fighter. That raises a fighters stock, it doesn't drop it. The goal of boxing isn't to retire undefeated it's to fight the best you can. If you retire undefeated doing so then hats off, but it is no requirement for acknowledgement.

                I find it disgusting Brook is mentioned so often in here. If you don't see him in the same light as pre Golovkin then that's a problem with you and your expectations as a person, not a flaw or limitation of Brook as a fighter.
                It is not about what I think 'It is about Kell Brook, and his own mind'.

                The fight vs Golovkin destroyed him and his career, he has never been the same fighter or character since 'He went completely off the rails just like Tyson Fury' nobody references this, Kell Brook was in a dark place.

                And he plunged into that dark place, because he was badly managed and promoted by Eddie Hearn 'You have to take calculated risks in this game, especially if you have track position'.
                Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 07-10-2020, 01:02 PM. Reason: O

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                • BoxingIsGreat
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                  #38
                  People saying GGG don't get it. I'd say he's an overachiever with the little talent and skills that he has.

                  Lomachenko is the waste of talent. With his natural talent and skills, and the way people overhype him on here, he should have captured the imagination of a very large boxing fanbase by now, by fighting the best more often.

                  5 pound Rigo or Russell don't cut it.

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                  • bngsdad
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                    #39
                    Juan Manuel Lopez... He was doing well after the de leon fight. No idea what happened after

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                    • Tatabanya
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                      #40
                      At heavyweight, after Tyson I'd put Andrew Golota and Ike Ibeabuchi.

                      Gervonta Davis is probably going to be the next wasted potential amidst the lower weight classes.

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