Biggest wasted talent in boxing

[Get em up]

Buster had all the tools.

6'4” and athletic, coached from childhood by his father who was an ex pro, Buster lacked desire, not ability.

Buster literally only beat Tyson so his tool drawer was empty for the most part. He COULD have had it going on and COULD have had the tools just didnt.

[Cobra Curry]

Buster literally only beat Tyson so his tool drawer was empty for the most part. He COULD have had it going on and COULD have had the tools just didnt.

I'll have to respectfully disagree. I think from a physical and technical standpoint, he had pretty much everything you'd need.

He just didn't love boxing.

[Combat Talk Radio]

I've noticed more recently you have a special hate for Bud but once again I am tending to agree with you on this one Lol

I don't hate Crawford, I'm disappointed in him and and I'm tired of everyone calling him #1P4P when he hasn't done jack **** at welterweight, while nobody is holding him accountable for his BS.

Again, Tyson had the division on lock by the time he was old enough to (legally) drink a beer. Unified. Lineal. Undefeated. Dominant. Destructive. NO vacants. Just bodies on the record.

I covered this extensively in the thread I had here:

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=846041

And I challenge to this day anyone to read those facts and tell me that Terence Crawford doesn't belong at the top of a wasted talent list yet Tyson does.

I see

Buster Douglas: He BEAT the man nobody else could beat. He was talented, just not top tier. Him losing his mom F'd with him and made him go for broke against Tyson, which exposed the only way to beat him (not be afraid of him).

Zab Judah: multi time champion.

Broner: 4 division champion.

Oli McCall: knocked legendary Lennox Lewis smoove out.

Valero: 100% KO ratio, the only fighter to this day to have that.

Rigo: only ever lost to Loma in a fight he shouldn't have accepted.


I challenge anyone to compare the accomplishments of these names against Crawford and tell me why Crawford is not spark at the top of a wasted talent list.

[Curt Henning]

I don't hate Crawford, I'm disappointed in him and and I'm tired of everyone calling him #1P4P when he hasn't done jack **** at welterweight, while nobody is holding him accountable for his BS.

Again, Tyson had the division on lock by the time he was old enough to (legally) drink a beer. Unified. Lineal. Undefeated. Dominant. Destructive. NO vacants. Just bodies on the record.

I covered this extensively in the thread I had here:

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=846041

And I challenge to this day anyone to read those facts and tell me that Terence Crawford doesn't belong at the top of a wasted talent list yet Tyson does.

I see

Buster Douglas: He BEAT the man nobody else could beat. He was talented, just not top tier. Him losing his mom F'd with him and made him go for broke against Tyson, which exposed the only way to beat him (not be afraid of him).

Zab Judah: multi time champion.

Broner: 4 division champion.

Oli McCall: knocked legendary Lennox Lewis smoove out.

Valero: 100% KO ratio, the only fighter to this day to have that.

Rigo: only ever lost to Loma in a fight he shouldn't have accepted.


I challenge anyone to compare the accomplishments of these names against Crawford and tell me why Crawford is not spark at the top of a wasted talent list.

def noticed that most of the people that defend bud all the time are from the same group...the group that hates anything pbc/haymon

i have nothing against bud really...i like him...i want to love him......but he doesnt have a single win yet as good as brook, mikey or porter....

the people that defend him are very similar to those that defend golovkin at every turn....same M.O......"its everyone elses fault...not his"......its always the pbcs fault bud has no big fights....or whatever.....even though arum/bud are the ones that did a reverse course on wanting to fight porter as soon as porters dad said "call us" within about a week their tune became "yeah thats not on our radar" after they kept saying they were targeting him for weeks

arum likes to shout the pbc names when he thinks they wont respond or acknowledge him or when he knows haymon has other solid plans for them in house...once kenny porter said "call us" they went quiet and they started barking about how porter has no belts blah blah

its the same routine...everyone elses fault and never the fighters.....its started with pac...moved to golovkin...now seems crawford is getting the treatment.....

at least pac took good fights and did some amazing stuff.....these other guys seem to get mega praise for not doing anything noteworthy

[HENNY]

I'll have to respectfully disagree. I think from a physical and technical standpoint, he had pretty much everything you'd need.

He just didn't love boxing.

Yeah, I agree. The night he fought Tyson, he showed a great jab, fluid combination punching, and solid ring IQ from an offense and defense perspective.

After that night, dude just gave up and ballooned up in weight. Wasted his momentum by taking his foot off the peddle

[Joe shmo]

Tony Ayala jr
Panchito Bojado
Jose Luis Lopez
Michael Dokes
Frankie Gomez
Ricardo Williams jr
Ike IBeatahoochie
Dmitry Pirog

Damn, y u gotta throw pirog in there. He did what canelo and GGG couldn't and ko'd Jacobs, then signed to fight a prime ggg when everyone else was avoiding him. Dude ruptured a disc in his back while training and never fought again. It wasn't like he just wasted his talent, he got hurt. But I guess everyone is entitled to their view. Gomez is a good one tho. Dude was supposed to b the next big thing and instead has spent his career fighting dishwashers at fantasy springs.

[drablj]

As a GGG fan, I wish he'd blown Oscar and Canelo off and gone ahead with his unification fight vs BJS, which was a done deal till Oscar threw a spanner in the works by warning Golovkin that if he fought BJS in the summer, he could forget about fighting Canelo in the fall.

GGG also missed an earlier opportunity to become boxing's first undisputed champion in over a decade when he pulled out of a fight with WBO champ Andy Lee and went home to Kazakhstan to mourn the sudden death of his father.

i agree about the bjs fight. andy lee was not a champ yet and wouldn't have been if he fought golovkin then (his ranking would drop).
the biggest dissapointment was when chavez junior signed to fight golovkin and then refused 8 million (he probably never earned that much since) because he wanted to get out of top rank. chavez was not considered a bum in 2014. and that would have been a big fight. obviously pirog's injury was unfortunate too. those two guys signed to fight him but fights fell apart. i won't mention others who didn't want to fight for whatever reason.

[BLASTER1]

People saying GGG don't get it. I'd say he's an overachiever with the little talent and skills that he has.

Lomachenko is the waste of talent. With his natural talent and skills, and the way people overhype him on here, he should have captured the imagination of a very large boxing fanbase by now, by fighting the best more often.

5 pound Rigo or Russell don't cut it.

Bro you say you like Loma but everychance you get to put his career down you jump at the chance.
I dont understand it?

[BLASTER1]

Unified heavyweight, lineal, beat everybody for the throne.

ALL of you should be ashamed for not having Terence MF'n Crawford at the top of your lists.

You mention Tyson being unified and lineal, well guess what so is Terrance so your post makes as much sense as pineapple in a hamburger.

[1bad65]

This is the truest statement made about Tyson. Had Cus lived to keep Tyson grounded until he did age I dont think we would see another heavyweight title reign like it for a century if ever. Tyson had everything you could imagine a unstoppable force needed and between Cus dying and Don King he was ripped to shreds by everyday life. One of the saddest success stories in boxing really.

I've always thought that myself.