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  • skinny kenny
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    #21
    Originally posted by Mammoth
    Helenius loses to both
    you're right and he gets stopped and he wins one round at most

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      #22
      Originally posted by Bronx2245
      Yes sir! I would also like to see Hunter vs. Sanchez! Very different type of fight, but would be good for those who appreciate the sweet science! I wonder who would be the best opponent for Efe Ajagba at this point in his career? Breazeale???
      breazelle is too much at this point. maybe a jennings or a spilka. maybe a gerald washington or a wach. bogdan dinu type.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Get em up
        He would be ok but I think Helenius would be a good test there. He is tough and is on the up swing after the Kownacki fight. I think if Ajagba managed to pull that off he would prove he belongs. Where Easy Breezy disappeared after the 1-2 lights out against Wilder.
        If Ajagba beat Breazeale there is the argument he was done after Wilder. If he beat Helenius he is at least beating a tough fighter clawing his way back up.
        helenius would have been perfect for ajagba but he messed around and won the fight. LOL

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          #24
          Originally posted by DougalDylan
          err Whyte beating Parker I'd say was his best win and Whyte beat someone better than Jennings (ie who could beat him), Ortiz just beat Jennings.

          Even the fact we're debating Whytes best win shows you something and even if you look at Rivas Whyte beat someone better than Jennings, Ortiz just beat Jennings.

          If Ortiz wants to change track and starting beating the top guys i'm all in, say beat Ruiz .. PBC fight
          .. so wheres the issue ?

          Ortiz beat Jennings how many years ago and ........ nothing, I got nothing
          rivas beat jennings last year and he pulled out a ko in the last round losing on all cards. he got the win though

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            #25
            Ancient Ortiz would be having Nordic Nightmare's

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              #26
              Originally posted by Bronx2245
              Yes sir! I would also like to see Hunter vs. Sanchez! Very different type of fight, but would be good for those who appreciate the sweet science! I wonder who would be the best opponent for Efe Ajagba at this point in his career? Breazeale???

              Efe , imo , is not far from getting knocked the fugh out
              Anybody who’s got a bit of skills , meaning who has a boxing iq can and will knock him out
              Besides having a big punch , Efe has no defence and lacks fight when on his back foot



              Originally posted by skinny kenny
              you're right and he gets stopped and he wins one round at most


              I wouldn’t be so sure about that
              He took a lot of punishment in the Kownacki fight and then knocked him out
              If his injuries are finally done and he comes out fighting like his last fight , he can give anyone problems especially the lower tier guys

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                #27
                Originally posted by SinderellaMan
                Let me get this straight.
                Kownacki shocked Kownacki to get the WBA 'gold' title
                Originally they said it was a WBA eliminator (dont think they said final eliminator)

                so they likely just threw the gold belt in there at the last minute because it's the WBA. Everyone gets a belt.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by MulaKO
                  Efe , imo , is not far from getting knocked the fugh out
                  Anybody who’s got a bit of skills , meaning who has a boxing iq can and will knock him out
                  Besides having a big punch , Efe has no defence and lacks fight when on his back foot







                  I wouldn’t be so sure about that
                  He took a lot of punishment in the Kownacki fight and then knocked him out
                  If his injuries are finally done and he comes out fighting like his last fight , he can give anyone problems especially the lower tier guys
                  Efe is a prospect in it's truest form. Took up boxing late, small amateur career, small pro career. No reason to rush him into a fight in the top 10. he shows improvements each time he's out there.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by MulaKO
                    Efe , imo , is not far from getting knocked the fugh out
                    Anybody who’s got a bit of skills , meaning who has a boxing iq can and will knock him out
                    Besides having a big punch , Efe has no defence and lacks fight when on his back foot







                    I wouldn’t be so sure about that
                    He took a lot of punishment in the Kownacki fight and then knocked him out
                    If his injuries are finally done and he comes out fighting like his last fight , he can give anyone problems especially the lower tier guys
                    Who do you think Efe should fight next?

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by skinny kenny
                      breazelle is too much at this point. maybe a jennings or a spilka. maybe a gerald washington or a wach. bogdan dinu type.
                      Is Breazeale too much for Kownacki?

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