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  • pasawayako
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    #41
    Originally posted by Mexican Bidness
    De La Hoya is bigger than Floyd. Of course he needed gear to make 145.
    Floyd was in his normal weight shouldn't need IV but he still inject himself to gain an advantage.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Roadblock
      He was offered the CW a year earlier, offered meaning Canelo said he would take a CW to fight Floyd. when the negotiations started it was called on , point is is it only this CW and all others are good or other CWs are all cowards also ? answer it.

      You think because you didnt mention Manny so thats the rule, fkn pea brain lol, he is the CW king of history he is relevant in any conversation regarding CWS especially concerning Floyd, they were tied together at birth didnt you know that.

      How do you feel about Mannys numerous CWs ?
      You've clearly been breastfed by your Dad if you believe that Canelo offered to go down to 152 voluntarily. (that wasn't milk he fed you, bud)

      Canelo on 152:"I wouldn't do that. But when the (fight) negotiations started, they wanted me to go to 147. I said that's physically impossible. I couldn't do it. Then they inched up to 150. I said I can't do it, that's impossible. Those days are over. I can't make that weight anymore, I've grown.

      "Then they went up to 151. And then finally, so we could make the fight, I said, 'If anything, I'll give up two pounds. I'll go up to 152. I agreed to that. Then they tried to force me to be quiet and not to mention anything that they came up with the weight of 152."


      Mayweather on the 152 CW. “If he wants the fight, he could take it. If he don’t want it, he don’t got to.

      Canelo went down to 152 because he was forced to, or there would have been no fight.

      Originally posted by Roadblock
      You think because you didnt mention Manny so thats the rule, fkn pea brain lol, he is the CW king of history he is relevant in any conversation regarding CWS especially concerning Floyd, they were tied together at birth didnt you know that.

      How do you feel about Mannys numerous CWs ?
      I don't support CWs in boxing, Manny or Floyd. But I never lied for Manny and claimed that his opponents were responsible for the CWs, the way you lied for Floyd.

      You're just a butthurt Floyd fan bleeding between the legs because I exposed your BS claim that Floyd didn't make Canelo go down to 152.

      Again, in all honesty it was a decent win for Floyd without a dumb embarrassing piece of shyt like you lying for him and claiming Canelo wanted the CW.
      Last edited by Emperor Trump; 07-06-2020, 03:00 AM.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Emperor Trump
        Lol what a little lying weasel you are. I never even mentioned Manny at all in this thread.

        You said, “Floyd was offered the 152 catchweight” which is a complete lie and something that has been debunked by Team Canelo. Floyd is the one who requested 152 and that’s been proven.

        Once again I never mentioned Manny. You’re too dumb to even read just like your Idol Floyd.
        Originally posted by Roadblock
        He was offered the CW a year earlier, offered meaning Canelo said he would take a CW to fight Floyd. when the negotiations started it was called on , point is is it only this CW and all others are good or other CWs are all cowards also ? answer it.

        You think because you didnt mention Manny so thats the rule, fkn pea brain lol, he is the CW king of history he is relevant in any conversation regarding CWS especially concerning Floyd, they were tied together at birth didnt you know that.

        How do you feel about Mannys numerous CWs ?
        Canelo chose his style for Floyd, and that is, an erroneous attempt to box Floyd whom has more experience at the top level. Floyd is lighter. He was able to retreat from hot pockets, and because his defense was the best in the game, his confidence and accuracy to dodge shots from almost anybody is high, which means Floyd can stay close against many and just evade the counter. His advantage was because of size and weight.

        Though because of the nature of weight and gossip in gyms, and because Canelo was having trouble making weight since Cintron, the Floyd camp knew 152 was a safe zone. People say 2lbs don’t mean anything... yet Floyd couldn’t make 2lbs less for Marquez at 144 and had contract redone last minute for 146. This proves why making the scale is a gruesome challenge in the sport. 2lbs can affect optimized calibration. If it’s water that’s worst than muscle. Cells, reconstruction, require fluid. Look at Floyd with IV Gate. He needed water for one of the biggest paydays of his life, so he needed to be hydrated at best...

        Canelo lost fair and square at 152. The problem I have is Floyd bragging that Cotto and Canelo were “easy work” at 154 or 152 then why didn’t Floyd attempt Cotto’s Middleweight Lineal at 155 in from 2014+? Or Canelo’s Lineal? Those would’ve been astronomical NEW PPV’s for “Easy work.” That’s why Floyd is a bullshetter given all the circumstances mentioned regarding catchweights which he practiced himself and didn’t commit to.

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          #44
          Originally posted by pasawayako
          Floyd was in his normal weight shouldn't need IV but he still inject himself to gain an advantage.
          No. Floyd couldn’t make 144 for Marquez. He has been lying about his fight night weights. Floyd looks ripped at 147 weigh ins but then comes in soft in the ring for various fights... Floyd had to adjust water drain to 146 with Marquez instead of the contracted 144. This is how we know Floyd has trouble sacrificing water for the scale that he wanted to MAKE SURE he was hydrated for Pacquiao. It reflects what Floyd has been doing in previous fights with IVs. Only a star like PAC and industry were able to whistleblow that on Floyd. I don’t find the IV a big deal for “cheating” at all. It’s more a revelation that Floyd lies about scale management.

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          • Roadblock
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            #45
            Originally posted by Emperor Trump
            You've clearly been breastfed by your Dad if you believe that Canelo offered to go down to 152 voluntarily. (that wasn't milk he fed you, bud)

            Canelo on 152:"I wouldn't do that. But when the (fight) negotiations started, they wanted me to go to 147. I said that's physically impossible. I couldn't do it. Then they inched up to 150. I said I can't do it, that's impossible. Those days are over. I can't make that weight anymore, I've grown.

            "Then they went up to 151. And then finally, so we could make the fight, I said, 'If anything, I'll give up two pounds. I'll go up to 152. I agreed to that. Then they tried to force me to be quiet and not to mention anything that they came up with the weight of 152."


            Mayweather on the 152 CW. “If he wants the fight, he could take it. If he don’t want it, he don’t got to.

            Canelo went down to 152 because he was forced to, or there would have been no fight.



            I don't support CWs in boxing, Manny or Floyd. But I never lied for Manny and claimed that his opponents were responsible for the CWs, the way you lied for Floyd.

            You're just a butthurt Floyd fan bleeding between the legs because I exposed your BS claim that Floyd didn't make Canelo go down to 152.

            Again, in all honesty it was a decent win for Floyd without a dumb embarrassing piece of shyt like you lying for him and claiming Canelo wanted the CW.
            This is where youre a fanboy fool, there are many stories circulated about what went down, you quoted one I quoted one, its meaningless its not even a point because neither of us know for sure.

            The thing is I dont give a fck who called for what, it dont mean a fckn thing, you try and make a big song and dance about who called for it first, who the fck cares lol.

            The irony is you are the Polar opposite of what you accuse me off, thats why I wanted you to explain how Floyd is a coward for a CW but the others youre ok with.

            Is Manny a coward for wanting all his CWs, I want to see if youre consistent or just another FM hating schoolboy .



            Guess I wasnt lying so you lose, at worst one or both of us is quoting a lie but the quotes are real so neither is lying , sorry to take your false win away, seems you really needed it.

            Canelo Alvarez apparently isn't just messing around or making bold statements -- he's serious about fighting Floyd Mayweather Jr on May 5.

            Alvarez, who defeated Kermit Cintron on Saturday in Mexico City, tells Sal Rodriguez of Record that he's willing to drop down to 150 pounds to fight Mayweather:




            WBC junior middleweight champion Saul "Canelo" Alvarez (39-0-1, 29KOs) is willing to drop a few pounds to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. (42-0, 26KOs). Mayweather is the World Boxing Council's champion at 147-pounds. Alvarez has no problem facing Mayweather at a catch-weight of 150-pounds.

            WBC junior middleweight champion Saul "Canelo" Alvarez (39-0-1, 29KOs) is willing to drop a few pounds to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. (42-0, 26KOs). Mayweather is the World Boxing Council's champion at 147-pounds. Alvarez has no problem facing Mayweather at a catch-weight of 150-pounds.



            Alvarez campaigns at the middleweight division, while Mayweather fights at welterweight.

            Alvarez saID, however, that he is willing to fight Mayweather at a 150-pound catchweight.

            "It's what I want, the Mayweather fight. That's what we put on the table. I feel more mature and for that I am willing to go down to 150-pounds," Alvarez said in a Boxing Scene interview.

            https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/11/3...bs-floyd-fight



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            Last edited by Roadblock; 07-06-2020, 03:31 AM.

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              #46
              Originally posted by pasawayako
              All of it are 100% true. Floyd could barely touch an inujred pac while pac easily counter punch and wobbled floyd. Pac retired dela hoya who almost beat floyd(may people think that he beat floyd including floyd own father).
              Floyd schooled Pac.

              Why hasn't Pac fought Canelo?

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                #47
                Originally posted by Roadblock
                This is where youre a fanboy fool, there are many stories circulated about what went down, you quoted one I quoted one, its meaningless its not even a point because neither of us know for sure.

                The thing is I dont give a fck who called for what, it dont mean a fckn thing, you try and make a big song and dance about who called for it first, who the fck cares lol.
                Once again you're an imbecile if you truly believe Canelo insisted on draining himself to 152 during the fight negotiations lol. Funny thing is your dumb ass thinks you're convincing people when everyone could see it was a bytch move from Floyd.

                Originally posted by Roadblock
                Guess I wasnt lying so you lose, at worst one or both of us is quoting a lie but the quotes are real so neither is lying , sorry to take your false win away, seems you really needed it.

                Canelo Alvarez apparently isn't just messing around or making bold statements -- he's serious about fighting Floyd Mayweather Jr on May 5.

                Alvarez, who defeated Kermit Cintron on Saturday in Mexico City, tells Sal Rodriguez of Record that he's willing to drop down to 150 pounds to fight Mayweather:




                WBC junior middleweight champion Saul "Canelo" Alvarez (39-0-1, 29KOs) is willing to drop a few pounds to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. (42-0, 26KOs). Mayweather is the World Boxing Council's champion at 147-pounds. Alvarez has no problem facing Mayweather at a catch-weight of 150-pounds.

                WBC junior middleweight champion Saul "Canelo" Alvarez (39-0-1, 29KOs) is willing to drop a few pounds to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. (42-0, 26KOs). Mayweather is the World Boxing Council's champion at 147-pounds. Alvarez has no problem facing Mayweather at a catch-weight of 150-pounds.



                Alvarez campaigns at the middleweight division, while Mayweather fights at welterweight.

                Alvarez saID, however, that he is willing to fight Mayweather at a 150-pound catchweight.

                "It's what I want, the Mayweather fight. That's what we put on the table. I feel more mature and for that I am willing to go down to 150-pounds," Alvarez said in a Boxing Scene interview.

                https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/11/3...bs-floyd-fight

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                Nice try. These are stories from years before the fight negotiations even started so they don't mean shyt. WHAT HAPPENED DURING THE ACTUAL FIGHT NEGOTIATIONS?

                Floyd forced Canelo to come down to 152 during the actual fight negotiation, when Canelo preferred 154. That's all that matters.

                Canelo Alvarez says that he was forced into a catchweight for the Floyd Mayweather fight and then told not to talk about it.


                Originally posted by Roadblock
                The irony is you are the Polar opposite of what you accuse me off, thats why I wanted you to explain how Floyd is a coward for a CW but the others youre ok with.

                Is Manny a coward for wanting all his CWs, I want to see if youre consistent or just another FM hating schoolboy .
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                When did I say Manny's CWs were ok? I know your 3rd grade education holds you back so let me repeat myself again. I think CWs are BS no matter who it is, Manny or Floyd.

                Now, I would never lie and say Manny's opponents asked for the CWs, the way you're suggesting that Canelo was the one who forced the CW against Floyd.

                That's a bytch move from you. And no one believes you.
                Last edited by Emperor Trump; 07-06-2020, 04:07 AM.

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                • Roadblock
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                  #48
                  Nice try. These are stories from years before the fight negotiations even started so they don't mean shyt. WHAT HAPPENED DURING THE ACTUAL FIGHT NEGOTIATIONS?
                  This is what I said in the beginning you fkn empty head go back a few posts , so what I originally said is true, fkn crying girl you are.

                  He was offered the CW a year earlier, offered meaning Canelo said he would take a CW to fight Floyd. when the negotiations started it was called on

                  When did I say Manny's CWs were ok? I know your 3rd grade education holds you back so let me repeat myself again. I think CWs are BS no matter who it is, Manny or Floyd.

                  Now, I would never lie and say Manny's opponents asked for the CWs, the way you're suggesting that Canelo was the one who forced the CW against Floyd.
                  I said in your opinion is Manny a coward for forcing a CW, we dont need a wall of tantrum just a straight answer will do.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Roadblock
                    This is what I said in the beginning you fkn empty head go back a few posts , so what I originally said is true, fkn crying girl you are.

                    He was offered the CW a year earlier, offered meaning Canelo said he would take a CW to fight Floyd. when the negotiations started it was called on
                    Nice deflect, pussie. Past media interviews aren't fight offers you moron.

                    During the actual negotiations Floyd demanded a CW while Canelo's team wanted 154.

                    You trying to make it seem like Floyd wasn't responsible for the CW.

                    Everyone can see you're a lying little bytch just like your idol Gayweather lol.

                    Originally posted by Roadblock
                    I said in your opinion is Manny a coward for forcing a CW, we dont need a wall of tantrum just a straight answer will do.
                    No, because Manny took responsibility for his CW, unlike you and your idol Gayweather.
                    Last edited by Emperor Trump; 07-06-2020, 04:35 AM.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Emperor Trump
                      Nice deflect, pussie. Past media interviews aren't fight offers you moron.

                      During the actual negotiations Floyd demanded a CW while Canelo's team wanted 154.

                      You trying to make it seem like Floyd wasn't responsible for the CW.

                      Everyone can see you're a lying little bytch just like your idol Gayweather lol.



                      No, because Manny took responsibility for his CW, unlike you and your idol Gayweather.
                      Youre wrong again sunny, Floyd was asked about the CW, he said " It will make the job easier " cant be more truthful than that.

                      I think the way the whole lot has gone its you who is the coward, and a Manny fan boy , more truth .

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