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Nsb pick em #28 - #31 7th and 9th july 2020

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  • #31
    Just a little call for assistance into Mexican naming conventions if someone could help me out?
    Articles on the Vences vs Vs Vargas fight seem split between calling him Luis Vargas and Luis Lopez... course his full name is Luis Alberto Lopez Vargas.

    Course I noticed a similar thing with JC Martinez Aguilar, and I started off refering to him as JC Aguilar until it became clear that J C Martinez was the overwhelmingly more common usage.

    Anyone give me a lil info on Mexican naming conventions, mainly to satisfy my curiosity, but also to help avoid confusion on future Pick Ems (and to avoid any faux pas should I find myself in Mexico ). Also whether there's similar conventions across the Hispanophone world.

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    • #32
      The*******Dayz

      Vences, DEC, Wide

      Zepeda, KO, Late

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Citizen Koba View Post
        Just a little call for assistance into Mexican naming conventions if someone could help me out?
        Articles on the Vences vs Vs Vargas fight seem split between calling him Luis Vargas and Luis Lopez... course his full name is Luis Alberto Lopez Vargas.

        Course I noticed a similar thing with JC Martinez Aguilar, and I started off refering to him as JC Aguilar until it became clear that J C Martinez was the overwhelmingly more common usage.

        Anyone give me a lil info on Mexican naming conventions, mainly to satisfy my curiosity, but also to help avoid confusion on future Pick Ems (and to avoid any faux pas should I find myself in Mexico ). Also whether there's similar conventions across the Hispanophone world.
        In the U.S most Mexican Americans use only their fathers last name.
        In Mexico most people use both their father and mothers last names.
        Add in a middle name in there and you have a mouthful for the ring announcer.
        Last edited by Idunnoshet; 07-07-2020, 08:20 AM.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Idunnoshet View Post
          In the U.S most Mexican Americans use only their fathers last name.
          In Mexico most people use both their father and mothers last names.
          Add in a middle name in there and you have a mouthful for the ring announcer.
          Thanks man, so am I right in assuming that it's convention to put the patronymic surname first and that if only one of the surnames is being used it's typically the patronymic (so in this case Lopez, in the case on JCMA then Martinez)? Or is it frowned upon to skip the matronymic appelido in Mexico?

          If I can I'd rather adhere to the naming traditions of the country a fighter comes from (wherever in the world it may be) if that is at all possible rather than anglicising everything - I'd like to give due respect to all cultural heritages if I can, given of course the limitations of transliteration for fighters who come from places that don't use a latin alphabet.

          EDIT: mmm, interesting. So mainly based on Spanish customs with a few national varations across the Spanish speaking world.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_naming_customs

          https://www.familysearch.org/blog/en...an-last-names/

          https://users.clas.ufl.edu/afburns/m...uc/mexinam.htm

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naming...spanic_America
          Last edited by Citizen Koba; 07-07-2020, 09:10 AM.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Citizen Koba View Post
            Ha ha, actually it's much simpler and more prosaic. In my local vernacular what I'm doing is known as 'polishing a turd'. In this particular case I'm doing it with excessive verbosity to conceal the fact that I know almost nothing about all but 3 of these fighters, yet am attempting to sell these fights as if I know for a fact they're decent match ups anyway. Tricks of the trade brother... but shhh! keep it under your hat!
            Vernacular you say... Polishing of the great brown bomb! Helluva vocabulary bro!

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            • #36
              Originally posted by NC Uppercut View Post
              Vernacular you say... Polishing of the great brown bomb! Helluva vocabulary bro!


              Hahahahahahahahahahaha
              The hippie is getting technical lol

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              • #37
                Originally posted by NC Uppercut View Post
                Vernacular you say... Polishing of the great brown bomb! Helluva vocabulary bro!
                Mama Koba always said I had a way with words...

                Grew up with no TV brother, but lots of books... I can talk like I got a damn dictionary up my ass when I got a mind to. Saved my ass more than once when I been in front of the magistrates.
                Last edited by Citizen Koba; 07-07-2020, 12:24 PM.

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                • #38
                  Ganondorf Zepeda KO Late
                  Ganondorf Vences Dec Close
                  Ganondorf Castro Dec Close
                  Ganondorf Takam Dec Close

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Citizen Koba View Post
                    Mama Koba always said I had a way with words...

                    Grew up with no TV brother, but lots of books... I can talk like I got a damn dictionary up my ass when I got a mind to. Saved my ass more than once when I been in front of the magistrates.
                    I bet with that "vernacular" you have saved more than your own! Cheers.
                    Surgery was a breeze yesterday, 6 hrs and know hiccups!

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by MulaKO View Post
                      Hahahahahahahahahahaha
                      The hippie is getting technical lol
                      Technical as hell right

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