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  • PBR Streetgang
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    #41
    Originally posted by MulaKO
    I was really surprised with Franky making that comment
    Usually he treats the sport with respect
    From my understanding , I think he owns a gym , practices more than one combat sport so yeah
    Very surprised , maybe he just had a bad day with one of his Canelo posts

    Anyway , you were at the fight
    Are Beterbiev’s shots just thunderous
    I seen like 6-7 of his first fights and you could just hear the echo of the shots
    I’ve never heard that before or maybe it’s the fact that he throws with so much power
    I don’t know but it’s impressive to say the least
    I mean no disrespect to any fellow NSB member and don't claim to be anything I'm not....just don't see how someone can criticise The Nail when it comes to courage.

    As for Beterbiev, seeing him live gave me a greater appreciation. Guy looked a different level of solid. His punches had that dull thud like youre taking a baseball bat to a slab of meat. The fact Gvozdyk took it for so long and was trying to win was incredibly impressive.

    Artur also took some solid, clean shots from Gvozdyk and he just ate them up. He might be outboxed by someone but it would take one helluva effort because his ability to take and dish punishment is unrivalled among his peers.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Marvlus Marv
      It was like Gvodzyk was going all out (and performing great) and Artur was just sitting in 3rd gear soaking up some nice shots, but then he just flowed through the gears and into God Mode for the last few rounds.
      That's an excellent way of explaining it, much better than my attempt.

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      • Dasmius Shinobi
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        #43
        Originally posted by MulaKO
        I doubt he coming back
        First off it would be useless to come back and fight Beterbiev
        He would lose in worse fashion than the first one
        Secondly , I know he didn’t mention it but he’s not well physically
        It had come out a little while ago , if I’m not mistaken it was right after the Stevenson fight
        He sounds like a man who’s in charge of his life and very realistic to his surroundings

        I feel the same that Gvozdyk lost something in the Adonis Stevenson vs Gvozdyk fight. That was a fierce fight and Gvozdyk took the best punches of Adonis and have to dig deep to win the fight. That fight definitely took something from him, but I was not 100% sure, because he fought very well against Beterbiev. Now seeing things, Gvozdyk took a tune up between Adonis and Arthur, but 10 month of difference fighting two elite killers explain a lot about what you are saying. I hope he have success in his plans of business, for me, Gvozdyk don't need to prove himself more. Still I am clueless with the words of people saying Gvozdyk don't have heart. That man have heart when he fought 2 of the best in Adonis and Beterbiev. Also, I don't blame his decision to retire, because of age, how he feel with his health, pandemic don't help and his desire or drive to boxing is not same. The thing I don't want is Gvozdyk returning to boxing without the desire and drive in 100%.
        Last edited by Dasmius Shinobi; 06-27-2020, 02:56 PM. Reason: Corrections.

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          #44
          Originally posted by PBR Streetgang
          I mean no disrespect to any fellow NSB member and don't claim to be anything I'm not....just don't see how someone can criticise The Nail when it comes to courage.

          As for Beterbiev, seeing him live gave me a greater appreciation. Guy looked a different level of solid. His punches had that dull thud like youre taking a baseball bat to a slab of meat. The fact Gvozdyk took it for so long and was trying to win was incredibly impressive.

          Artur also took some solid, clean shots from Gvozdyk and he just ate them up. He might be outboxed by someone but it would take one helluva effort because his ability to take and dish punishment is unrivalled among his peers.


          Funny you say that cause that’s what I was going to tell you ; he’s a totally different beast live
          People think Artur is just a bully in the ring , but brother can he box
          And like you said , he can take big shots
          Every time he’s been down , it was only because he was thinking offense and forgot défense
          Gvozdyk is a great fighter and I really believe that had they never faced each other before , that would be a close fight
          I recall people here telling me I was crazy fo4 the way I was raging about him and stating he would knock Gvozdyk out
          Nobody gonna get close to him unless he gets old overnight

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            #45
            Originally posted by Dasmius Shinobi
            I feel the same that Gvozdyk lost something in the Adonis Stevenson vs Gvozdyk fight. That was a fierce fight and Gvozdyk took the best punches of Adonis and have to dig deep to win the fight. That fight definitely took something from him, but I was not 100% sure, because he fought very well against Beterbiev. Now seeing things, Gvozdyk took a tune up between Adonis and Arthur, but 10 month of difference fighting two elite killers explain a lot about what you are saying. I hope he have success in his plans of business, for me, Gvozdyk don't need to prove himself more. Still I am clueless with the words of people saying Gvozdyk don't have heart. That man have heart when he fought 2 of the best in Adonis and Beterbiev. Also, I don't blame his decision to retire, because of age, how he feel with his health, pandemic don't help and his desire or drive to boxing is not same. The thing I don't want is Gvozdyk returning to boxing without the desire and drive in 100%.


            If I remember correctly , these health issues started before the Stevenson fight
            He won an Olympic medal , became a world champion , for me the guy got it all
            Sure there’s more out there but he’d definitely be starting not from the bottom but he’d still have to work for it hard
            Imo , he’s a great fighter , just happened to stumble on a bigger lion
            I really doubt he comes back and from my understanding he doesn’t need to

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              #46
              Originally posted by MulaKO
              If I remember correctly , these health issues started before the Stevenson fight
              He won an Olympic medal , became a world champion , for me the guy got it all
              Sure there’s more out there but he’d definitely be starting not from the bottom but he’d still have to work for it hard
              Imo , he’s a great fighter , just happened to stumble on a bigger lion
              I really doubt he comes back and from my understanding he doesn’t need to

              Is new to me about the health issue of Gvozdyk before the Stevenson fight. Do you know the health issue? I ask because I really don't know.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Dasmius Shinobi
                Is new to me about the health issue of Gvozdyk before the Stevenson fight. Do you know the health issue? I ask because I really don't know.


                No I don’t
                I’m pretty sure something had came out after the fight saying that he has some medical issues
                Nothing threatening but still , don’t think taking punches to the head is recommendation for anything
                And the fact he absorbed big punishment in both fights ( Stevenson and Beterbiev )

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                  #48
                  This is a refreshing look at a fighter being realistic in his expectations. He has the experience of hurting and retiring a champion and then for himself to be stopped and going to the hospital. He fully realizes he was stopped and that Beterbiev is fully in the right in not showing interest in a man he stopped. His leverage is gone, he’s not likely to get a shot and with this pandemic, I can’t imagine it makes it easy for him to go about this career in a way that is comfortable or makes sense to him.

                  He came in, left his mark in the sport and feels good and from the sounds of it, wants to keep it that way. He may have practically killed Stevenson but it wasn’t exactly a cake walk. He took big shots from two terrifying punchers and is alive to tell the tale. He’s done what he set out to. If he isn’t going to be able to compete against who he wants to, go through tough training camps, lesser fights, etc..why do it at all if he has other things hed love to do?

                  He’s retiring from boxing and isn’t letting boxing retire him. He knows what it will take to get it back and he is not willing to do it again at this time.

                  It takes a big man to move on, props to him. He made his country, his family, and himself proud in this sport. He realizes the importance of health and seems ready to pursue the doors boxing has opened for him.

                  Would love to see him fight again, but if the fire isn’t there, I wish him nothing but happiness and success outside of the ring.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34
                    Smart man but clenelo will take care of Beterbiev once he finally knocks out Golovkin an retired him then cleans out 168 When guys finally realize their worth!
                    translation: clenelo will avoid the fight until beterbiev is 40 years old. beterbeiv still crushes the cheater.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Boxing Logic
                      Its annoying Ward retired with Gvozdyk and Bivol becoming mandatories or unification options soon. Gvozyk was a lot like Kovalev but taller, way longer arms, physically stronger, better chin, and way better stamina. Better left hook, better straight right, more movement and head movement, better guard, better inside.
                      And Gvozdyck is more afraid than Kovalev too. Kovalev will go all in if it takes but Gvozdyk 9 times out of 10 would pass on an opportunity to land if it was a risk to get one into his face. It's not cautious... it is DOUBLE-THINKING. Will I go ahead? no-no-no, not this time. And he totally lacks killer instinct.

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