Best heavyweight of all time?

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Anything non ''Wilder vs Fury 2'' SPECIFIC is pretty much you deflecting.

You're hurting so lashing out, it's very predictable.

[BodyBagz]

Pretty much everyone who disagrees with me is sporting Fury garb

[BodyBagz]

You're hurting so lashing out, it's very predictable.

It makes sense to stick to the fight in question, no ?

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It makes sense to stick to the fight in question, no ?

If you're going to come out with ridiculous statements saying stuff like Fury isn't in the top 100, expect to get mocked for it.

I'm just telling everyone how it is, you're a salty Wilder fan who hates Fury because he made you and your favorite fighter look very foolish.

Just be honest Curtis.

[BodyBagz]

If you're going to come out with ridiculous statements saying stuff like Fury isn't in the top 100, expect to get mocked for it.

I'm just telling everyone how it is, you're a salty Wilder fan who hates Fury because he made you and your favorite fighter look very foolish.

Just be honest Curtis.

Was Fury dirty vs Wilder in the rematch ?

No other topic OR FIGHT should be mentioned.

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Was Fury dirty vs Wilder in the rematch ?

No other topic OR FIGHT should be mentioned.

Not especially, no.

I don't recall any of the PBC commentators or analysts mentioning dirty tactics during the fight, in fact they all called it a masterclass performance by Tyson.

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Currently, I have my top heavyweight all time list looking something like this.

1. Rocky Marciano (dude never lost and fought the best, only heavyweight that can say that)

2. Joe Louis (most title defenses, dynamite in both hands you never saw coming)

3. Gene Tunney (fought in a tough era over 80 times and only lost one fight)

4. Evander Holyfield (only guy to beat the Baddest Man on the Planet twice. Has some tough losses on his record and fought past his sell-by date, but all this in the hardest of the hard eras of tough HWs. Never quit.)

5. Iron Mike Tyson (The Baddest Man on the Planet, enough said)

6. Muhammad Ali (probably deserved to be higher but we didn’t see much of his prime; I think sixth is a fair ranking but think like I said, we never got to see his peak form)

7. Joe Frazier (Amazing infighter, schooled a prime Muhammad Ali, but ranked below since he lost the series 2-1)

8. Jack Johnson (pretty much invented the so-called Urban School of Boxing and has a great resume)

9. Rid**** Bowe (The man was hot and cold, but he beat my guy Holyfield twice. I’ve got to tip my hat to him, and he made a pretty good name for himself in the toughest HW era of all time)

10. George Foreman (oldest HW champion and showed great resilience. Based only on raw punch power and not on other factors resulting in KO’s, I believe he was the hardest hitter of all time in my humble opinion)

With all that said, I feel that if Fury can play his cards right and make the right fights before he retires (and win them of course) then he could fall somewhere on the all time top ten heavyweights list, but obviously not at number one since he does already have the one draw. Also he can’t pass Joe Louis in my opinion. Not enough title defenses. If he beats Wilder a third time, beats Joshua twice, and beats Whyte and Usyk and Parker and Ruiz, I could totally see him somewhere on this list.

Do you think my eyes are open, or do you think IDKSAB?

Rocky was great but really just a light heavyweight and a bit small to rate that high. I saw a picture of him weighing in at 184 in street clothes and shoes. Since heavyweights don't have to make weight he was probably well fed and watered. He was outweighed in the ring by career light heavyweights Moore and Charles. Strange you rank Frazier higher than foreman when Foreman so easily KOed Frazier twice and Frazier was in his prime for the first fight and only lasted 2 rounds if I remember correctly. Frazier didn't do sh it against Foreman and both fights were very one sided. Foreman should be near the top in my opinion. They forgot to tell Douglas, Hollyfield and Lewis that Tyson was the baddest man on the planet. Frazier beat an Ali that had been forced out of boxing for damn near 4 years for not joining the army and was never as good after that as before. Frazier beat him the first fight on punch volume but he certainly did not school him. Ali ws by far the more skillful boxer. hell Frazier almost never threw a jab. he was a hard hitting slugger who set a very fast pace. Ali should be at or near the top. Watch film of him in his young days when he beat Liston. Liston probably would beat most of your top 10. Louis and Hollyfield deserve a high rating but so does Lewis who is not anywhere on your list. was great for his day but he only weighed 192 pounds when he won the title an there was not much competition or money in boxing back then. He might not beat the best modern heavyweights. You say nothing about Dempsey who was a small heavyweight but a terror who koed giants and really made boxing a huge sport for the first time.Dempsey damn near killed the giant Willard who beat Jack Johnson. It is too early to rank Fury but I could see him in the top 10.

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Sorry, it should have read Jack Johnson was great for his day.

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Marciano the best? Alis the best. He can be overtaken one day though.
Foreman is up there as is lennox lewis, and joe louis, holyfield, wladimir. I got high hopes for fury also.

[BodyBagz]

Not especially, no.

I don't recall any of the PBC commentators or analysts mentioning dirty tactics during the fight, in fact they all called it a masterclass performance by Tyson.

Your eyes need to be told what they see ?

Dude was as dirty as they came.