Comments Thread For: Calzaghe: I Would Have Beaten Andre Ward in Close, Tactical Fight

[SuperSuperLeeds]

What... Nothing triangular about this bruh, I stated with confidence I believe Ward wins against Calzaghe, I just don’t believe Calzaghe could beat prime Kovalev either.

Let’s explore triangular... It would only be triangular if hypothetically Calzaghe losses to Kovalev so we assume Ward beats Calzaghe because he beat Kovalev.

Calzaghe left the sport as Ward and Froch and others were coming up. He left with prime still available. In my mind, no man willing gives up power. Calzaghe just knew his rein would end if he kept going fighting the fresher kids. His out work you strategy was better against older fighters like RJJ at the time.

Prime kovalev is 13/14 for me not who ward beat so.

[Ghost Jab]

Loved them both, sorry bud, ain’t gonna happen. Only LW I can think of in the past 30 years who beats AW is Beterbiev.

[calemanregreso]

if the ref allows low blows and dirty fighting, ward wins, if not paid off ref and normal boxing match, calzage wins

[Lefty0616]

At first, I was like there's no way Calzaghe would win. But then I thought about when they would have fought. The fight would have taken place around the time Ward competed in the Super Six Tournament. Ward came into his own during the tournament...but he was still perfecting his craft. Therefore, he may have been there for the taking....at the hands of Calzaghe. I still would consider Ward a favorite to win though. Ward became a great tactical fighter, equipped with the ability to fight a little dirty, and he has the will to win - everything that makes for a great champion!

[Ghost Jab]

Nevertheless, Joe beat B-Hop, and AW pretty much fought the same way. You never know!

[Lefty0616]

Andre Ward and Hopkins were two different fighters. Hopkins was an overrated fraud. Ward fought more relentlessly. He fought to win. He never gave up in the ring. The only person Hopkins ever rallied to beat - and still lost against, was Jermaine Taylor. And let's face it, Taylor was far from a sound fighter. Calzaghe beat Hopkins......but let's face it. Hopkins rarely beat the better light heavyweights. Ward came to fight....and never lost. His only disputed win was against Kovalev (who Hopkins also lost against). I actually thought Ward won the first fight on points. He got beat up, but he won on points in my opinion. Ward had the heart to beat anyone in his weight class - to include Calzaghe.

[Fire4231]

Prime kovalev is 13/14 for me not who ward beat so.

Bro Ward beat the prime off Kovalev. In addition, we could say that wasn’t prime Ward either.

We could also say it wasn’t Ward’s natural weight class? Man excuses, excuses Ward was a better fighter.

[Fire4231]

I actually think Calzaghe would outwork him.

Sure you do...

[Tuggers1986]

I just meant that Kov shouldn't enter the equation.

As for Joe quitting to not face the Big Dogs, the only one you could seriously argue at the time was Dawson..... the narrative that he ducked people like Froch was largely put around by Froch himself.

Their careers just didn't overlap. Check the stats... when Calzaghe retired (at the age of 36) Froch was still fighting at British Title Level, and Ward had only had a dozen fights against low-level comp. He was hardly "ducking" two people who were just domestic at that time, and then in a lower division, with neither giving a real clue what they'd achieve... or, in Froch's case, overachieve.

The retirement that actually surprised me was Ward... at 33, he'd just TKO'd Kovalev by some deadly nut shots (I don't know if Joe could have hit Sergei's scrotum as well as Andre did) and was riding high... then he just left. For me, that was "WTF?" He still seemed to have a lot to offer.

Can't believe you are still lurking around these halls

Crazy!

[Guest]

Can't believe you are still lurking around these halls

Crazy!

Hey Tuggers, didn't see this post... I've spent half the year on bans.

I try and get myself banned regularly now, to stop me from wasting too much time here.

Things good with you?