Eubank Sr at middleweight

[tophat1]

Eubank always had a battle on his hands making weight at middle. I thought he looked more effective at middle than super middle. Top fighter in all tho

It's been a while since I've seen it but if they had Eubank beating Watson by 9 rounds they are way off. That was close many had watson winning at the time.

Gary stretch was a decent boxer, he was doing well against Eubank until he made the mistake of thinking he had him hurt and went in for the kill , ended up getting stopped .

[IronDanHamza]

Riight. Thompson is one of the most underrated british fighters but yeah hes no good at all! What does that make David Haye then? He must be a bum too
Snr clearly won the first fight imo where no one gave him a prayer, it was supposed to be when, not if Thompson stopped him, not only did he not get dropped but he dropped Thompson and deserved the decision.
You sound like you just saw some results on boxrec & never actually saw the fights you're talking about

Thompson really isn’t that good at all. That’s a massive L on Haye’s record one that he’s ridiculed for for a reason.

Eubank didn’t clearly win in any stretch of the imagination. He lost both times.

[coghaugen]

Lost all his fights with brawling inaccuracy - https://********/0EXdl9lWrU8

[coghaugen]

I guess the 20 world title wins and not losing til fight 45 of a career while banking so many millions is just average guys, pulling out that epic shot against Watson and going to Germany to dominate 35-0 Rocchi, gripping a nation many times was all an illusion *laughing emoji*

[coghaugen]

He was also robbed against Collins at Millstreet, defending his world title against a Dubliner in Dublin on St Patrick's weekend! Knocked down Collins for the first time in his career with a head shot and didn't press the advantage (ala Thompson domination til his eye shut)

[IronDanHamza]

I guess the 20 world title wins and not losing til fight 45 of a career while banking so many millions is just average guys, pulling out that epic shot against Watson and going to Germany to dominate 35-0 Rocchi, gripping a nation many times was all an illusion *laughing emoji*

He was also robbed against Collins at Millstreet, defending his world title against a Dubliner in Dublin on St Patrick's weekend! Knocked down Collins for the first time in his career with a head shot and didn't press the advantage (ala Thompson domination til his eye shut)

You live in a dream world that’s totally outside of reality.

“20 world title wins” the vast majority of which were bums. You find that impressive why? Many of these bums he arguably lost to as well.

He wasn’t even remotely close to robbed against Steve Collins AT ALL.

Oh he dominated Rocchigiani? Oh my god you’ve sold me. What an amazing fighter he must have been to do something so amazing!!!

Chris Eubank is a guy who struggled with the likes of Tony Thornton, Mauricio Amarel, Dan Schommer, Ray Close twice, Malinga and I’ve probably forgotten others there were so many.

You could easily argue he lost all of those fights listed above.

On the flip side his best wins are Nigel Benn and Micheal Watson

AVERAGE fighter. Nothing remotely special about him and anyone takes the time to actually go and watch his fights that’s clear to see no rose tinted alternate reality will change that.

[HeadBodyBodyBody]

You live in a dream world that’s totally outside of reality.

“20 world title wins” the vast majority of which were bums. You find that impressive why? Many of these bums he arguably lost to as well.

He wasn’t even remotely close to robbed against Steve Collins AT ALL.

Oh he dominated Rocchigiani? Oh my god you’ve sold me. What an amazing fighter he must have been to do something so amazing!!!

Chris Eubank is a guy who struggled with the likes of Tony Thornton, Mauricio Amarel, Dan Schommer, Ray Close twice, Malinga and I’ve probably forgotten others there were so many.

You could easily argue he lost all of those fights listed above.

On the flip side his best wins are Nigel Benn and Micheal Watson

AVERAGE fighter. Nothing remotely special about him and anyone takes the time to actually go and watch his fights that’s clear to see no rose tinted alternate reality will change that.

Rocchigiani is a solid win

Malinga was a close but clear win for Eubank. Incidentally, Malinga rates Eubank as the smartest boxer he ever faced. If not anything else, I'd urge you to rewatch that fight so that you never mention it again

Eubank handily took over down the stretch against Thornton, as was his style

The fights with Close were, ahem, close, but Close had a stay-busy style that made Eubank look bad. I mean, I think this was the key to Collins getting the W, to stay on him for three minutes of every round. Close was mostly ineffective though and I don't have any problems with the results he got. Indeed, if anything I'd say Eubank nicked the first fight aswell

Sherry, Schommer and Amaral = these are controversial, to say the least. But you're stretching the point to include all those other fights

Other good fighters of the same era also benefitted from gift decisions (e.g. Toney-Tiberi), and Eubank was certainly keeping himself busy even if they were mostly "bums". When you say Eubank was average, I just have to ask, in relation to who? He had an ATG chin, unstoppable heart, great (if awkward) footwork, and a very good right uppercut. My main problem with Eubank is that he didn't make fights with people like Nunn, Johnson, Toney, JJR etc, all the stateside talent that was there. Also, that he liked to stand back and pose, it's annoying, he could've finished off a lot of these fighters if he'd pushed on

[IronDanHamza]

Rocchigiani is a solid win

Malinga was a close but clear win for Eubank. Incidentally, Malinga rates Eubank as the smartest boxer he ever faced. If not anything else, I'd urge you to rewatch that fight so that you never mention it again

Eubank handily took over down the stretch against Thornton, as was his style

The fights with Close were, ahem, close, but Close had a stay-busy style that made Eubank look bad. I mean, I think this was the key to Collins getting the W, to stay on him for three minutes of every round. Close was mostly ineffective though and I don't have any problems with the results he got. Indeed, if anything I'd say Eubank nicked the first fight aswell

Sherry, Schommer and Amaral = these are controversial, to say the least. But you're stretching the point to include all those other fights

Other good fighters of the same era also benefitted from gift decisions (e.g. Toney-Tiberi), and Eubank was certainly keeping himself busy even if they were mostly "bums". When you say Eubank was average, I just have to ask, in relation to who? He had an ATG chin, unstoppable heart, great (if awkward) footwork, and a very good right uppercut. My main problem with Eubank is that he didn't make fights with people like Nunn, Johnson, Toney, JJR etc, all the stateside talent that was there. Also, that he liked to stand back and pose, it's annoying, he could've finished off a lot of these fighters if he'd pushed on

Didn’t say it wasn’t solid.

Malinga definitely was not “clear”. I wouldn’t argue with the decision but there was nothing clear about that fight at at all.

Thornton was clearer than Malinga but you could still argue he lost and at the very least he failed to look impressive.

He’s an average fighter in comparison to the elite. Of his era or any era. There’s nothing special at all about Chris Eubank and his fights show that as clear as day. He’s not a Hall Of Fame worthy fighter.

[HeadBodyBodyBody]

Didn’t say it wasn’t solid.

Malinga definitely was not “clear”. I wouldn’t argue with the decision but there was nothing clear about that fight at at all.

Thornton was clearer than Malinga but you could still argue he lost and at the very least he failed to look impressive.

He’s an average fighter in comparison to the elite. Of his era or any era. There’s nothing special at all about Chris Eubank and his fights show that as clear as day. He’s not a Hall Of Fame worthy fighter.

Everything is arguable

Eubank didn't make the most of his potential but he's still a great fighter in my eyes, better at SMW tho

Who would you say were the best MWs and SMWs of that era? I'm going through Toney's fights at the moment, but would appreciate a shout for who you think is worth watching. I was thinking to watch Benn

[coghaugen]

You are no boxing fan to call world-class professional fighters 'bums'. What are you even doing on a boxing internet forum!?