If Pacquiao retired today, where would you rank him all time?

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  • HewJohnson
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    #21
    Top ten.
    Top 15 AT THE LEAST.
    I’d place Floyd in top 15 also.

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    • Emperor Trump
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      #22
      Anything other than top 10 is bullshyt.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Ca$ual Fan
        LOL. Although I don’t necessarily agree with this, I just find it an irony how some complaint about racial judgements between black and white yet are racist themselves when it comes to Asians
        If you’ve been watching boxing for as long as I have you see how obvious black privilege is in this sport.

        For example Shakur Stevenson hasn’t faced anyone his resume is that equal of Ryan Garcia I might even say Garcia’s lone KO wins over Romero Duno and Foncesa are far better wins than anyone Shakur has beaten yet look at the boxing media they already praise Shakur as “ the next best thing” despite besting no one yet with Ryan they say “well he still has to prove if he’s any good”.

        Because Shakur is young undefeated and black well they say he “ must be the next best thing” yet every other non black fighter has to jump through hulla hoops and fire to get any little praise.

        Another example is Crawford dude has literally faced nothing but c and b level guys yet some ****inn idiots have him at number 1 lol how the fucckk they come up with that ****tt lol well cuz he’s black and undefeated doesn’t make him popular but underserved credit.

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        • Jedi Vader
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          #24
          Originally posted by hugh grant
          He's top 5.
          Originally posted by larryx...
          can you post your atg list please
          Well Larry Bro, let's do the maths.

          If we base it on hugh's quote below, it should be something similar to this.

          1. SRR
          2. Ali
          3. SRL
          4. Floyd
          5. Pac

          Originally posted by hugh grant
          ... PBF if he can beat Hatton needs guys like Cotto and Mosely. Mosely because PBF needs to beat the man who beat the man. Moselys beaten DLH twice.

          ONly then can we talk about PBF being ATG along the SRL and Ali and SRRs of this world.

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          • Thuglife Nelo
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            #25
            Originally posted by Jedi Vader
            Well Larry Bro, let's do the maths.

            If we base it on hugh's quote below, it should be something similar to this.

            1. SRR
            2. Ali
            3. SRL
            4. Floyd
            5. Pac
            Damn no wonder Hugh Grant be hating on Floyd. Lol he said Floyd needed to fight certain guys and inevitably puts PAC lower than Floyd which is blasphemous for Mr. Grant.

            I’d even put Henry Armstrong above PAC.

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            • hugh grant
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              #26
              Originally posted by Jedi Vader
              Well Larry Bro, let's do the maths.

              If we base it on hugh's quote below, it should be something similar to this.

              1. SRR
              2. Ali
              3. SRL
              4. Floyd
              5. Pac
              You ask.me why I keep talking about floyd? I never mentioned Floyd once here. It's you who keeps mentioning Floyd and your clearly stalking me just because i upset you putting Pac top 5. Lots of Pac s peers put him top 5, it's not going to shock or surprise anyone.

              YOUr list is silly and your be very immature about this showing your true colours. Why would Floyd be mentioned alongside, srr, ali according to my quote when he beats ancient versions. And Pac beats them more dominantly. Pac wouldn't be mentioned alongside Ali and SR R on strength of beating ssm, Hatton and cott o so why would floyd? Pac s alongside SR R and Ali on strength of whole resume as well as beating 4 common opponent with Floyd more dominant.

              Judging fighters isn't set in stone circumstances change as we can see. New evidence bought to table.
              Why can't you grow up and admit it? Just because Floyd fans cheerleads you doesn't mean to say everyone else can't see your being unreasonable and blinkered. Take your r ose tinted specs off and smell coffee
              Last edited by hugh grant; 06-17-2020, 04:47 AM.

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              • Ca$ual Fan
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                #27
                Originally posted by kidbazooka
                If you’ve been watching boxing for as long as I have you see how obvious black privilege is in this sport.

                For example Shakur Stevenson hasn’t faced anyone his resume is that equal of Ryan Garcia I might even say Garcia’s lone KO wins over Romero Duno and Foncesa are far better wins than anyone Shakur has beaten yet look at the boxing media they already praise Shakur as “ the next best thing” despite besting no one yet with Ryan they say “well he still has to prove if he’s any good”.

                Because Shakur is young undefeated and black well they say he “ must be the next best thing” yet every other non black fighter has to jump through hulla hoops and fire to get any little praise.

                Another example is Crawford dude has literally faced nothing but c and b level guys yet some ****inn idiots have him at number 1 lol how the fucckk they come up with that ****tt lol well cuz he’s black and undefeated doesn’t make him popular but underserved credit.
                LMAO exactly. They have this kind of standard for an ideal boxer. 1st of all, this boxer has to be of a certain heritage they can relate to with a specific skin color. Then he has to be slick and can throw a jab. Then you get an ideal perfect boxer who will have a promising career in the future. Any additional qualities will become a bonus and will be hyped up as they have already built love and acceptance from them fans. We’ve seen past greats like that. Doesn’t mean every fighter with that kind of quality will have the same career.

                And ah yes. The fighter has to be undefeated to make him look unbeatable.

                To be fair with Crawford, I know he’s generally unproven against elites but I’ve seen a glimpse of how good he is when he outclassed Khan, a former elite himself. But I see how people think he’s a bit overrated too.

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                • QueensburyRules
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by VG_Addict
                  Title is self-explanatory.
                  - -P4P he's so far over PrettyGirlFloyd that they might as well be in a different galaxy.

                  Thems irrefutable fax!

                  He's hard to pin down in a single division except Welter where he recently added a former p4per scalp in Thurman via an old fashioned schoolboy whipping.

                  Don't see him beating Spence, Porter, or Bud, but Dannyboy Garcia a sweet cherry to top off Manny's career.

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                    #29
                    Top 20 outside the top 10 for sure.

                    He was battered too much even at his peak.

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                    • Jedi Vader
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by hugh grant
                      You ask.me why I keep talking about floyd? I never mentioned Floyd once here. It's you who keeps mentioning Floyd and your clearly stalking me just because i upset you putting Pac top 5. Lots of Pac s peers put him top 5, it's not going to shock or surprise anyone.

                      YOUr list is silly and your be very immature about this showing your true colours. Why would Floyd be mentioned alongside, srr, ali according to my quote when he beats ancient versions. And Pac beats them more dominantly. Pac wouldn't be mentioned alongside Ali and SR R on strength of beating ssm, Hatton and cott o so why would floyd? Pac s alongside SR R and Ali on strength of whole resume as well as beating 4 common opponent with Floyd more dominant.

                      Judging fighters isn't set in stone circumstances change as we can see. New evidence bought to table.
                      Why can't you grow up and admit it? Just because Floyd fans cheerleads you doesn't mean to say everyone else can't see your being unreasonable and blinkered. Take your r ose tinted specs off and smell coffee
                      Bro, you really cannot be this thick, surely??

                      In YOUR quote, YOU said that Floyd needed to beat Mosley, Cotto and Hatton to be mentioned alongside SRR, SRL and Ali. In YOUR quote, where did you mention about ancient versions?

                      YOU said that. Now you said Pac is top 5. That tells me that YOU believe those 5 fighters are ATG's.

                      It was YOUR quote, nobody elses.

                      So stop crying and take it like the back tracking buffoon that you are.

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