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  • #31
    You would offer 50/50 because Joshua-Wilder was the biggest fight in boxing. Or at least compromise beyond flat rates and blind agreements that don’t address Joshua’s cut.

    You would be open to having the fight in the United States because it’s the biggest fight in boxing.

    You wouldn’t force an exclusive television contract on one half of the biggest fight in boxing.

    You can pretend like Wilder was a nobody but he was half of the biggest fight in boxing. Joshua’s team treated him like he didn’t matter so the fight didn’t happen. Joshua’s team is giving Fury everything he wants.


    Originally posted by daggum View Post
    neither wilder nor fury had any ppv success till their last fight. what in the world are you even talking about? why would you offer them 50-50 before they do anything? also joshua did just lose as well to add to things. not everything is static you know. things change. at the time 100 million was a great offer. wilder didnt want it. right now 50-50 is a great offer. im not seeing the inconsistency at all.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr View Post
      Why doesn’t Tyson Fury have to sign with DAZN to fight Joshua?

      Oh yeah, because Joshua was trying to duck Wilder.
      Because Fury has an exclusive contract with ESPN. Lou set up a meeting for the free agent Wilder to cut his own deal... Keep up, that’s why Wilder ended up firing Lou.

      The fact that Wilder ducked 100m for less, and announced TWO separate fights on the eve of Joshua/Ruiz wrapped it up. Even the people that thought Joshua was the one ducking switched at that point.

      This little fact also shows Fury would negotiate with anyone who is willing to sit down. He could have ducked Joshua too by announcing TWO unsigned/Unnegotiated fights. But he has more heart than your king.

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      • #33
        Why does it matter if Wilder didn’t have a tv contract with showtime or fox? He didn’t want to sign with DAZN and it killed the Joshua fight. The fight being a DAZN exclusive was clearly a sticking point that shouldn’t have existed.

        Wilder wasn’t even informed of the percentage of the cut so he didn’t take the deal. Who cares if he got $100 million. What it Joshua got more? He was wasn’t told the split.

        Also, don’t count Wilder-Brezeale as one of the two unsigned fights because it was a mandatory and had to come before a potential Wilder-Joshua fight. It was included in the DAZN deal because of that. He announced a rematch with Luis Ortiz, a fight that should have happened, while he was waiting for Fury.

        Wilder was waiting for Fury because Fury announced two unsigned fights before the rematch with Wilder. The exact scenario you’re using as evidence that Wilder didn’t want Joshua. Fury did that but wasn’t ducking the Wilder rematch. People said he was and they were wrong.

        Fury is willing to negotiate with anyone. But there isn’t an issue with the Joshua negotiations because he’s getting everything he wants. And remember, after the first Wilder-Fury fight, Fury said he fought Wilder instead of Joshua because Wilder was easy to negotiate with and Joshua was ducking a Fury fight.

        Originally posted by Ray* View Post
        Because Fury has an exclusive contract with ESPN. Lou set up a meeting for the free agent Wilder to cut his own deal... Keep up, that’s why Wilder ended up firing Lou.

        The fact that Wilder ducked 100m for less, and announced TWO separate fights on the eve of Joshua/Ruiz wrapped it up. Even the people that thought Joshua was the one ducking switched at that point.

        This little fact also shows Fury would negotiate with anyone who is willing to sit down. He could have ducked Joshua too by announcing TWO unsigned/Unnegotiated fights. But he has more heart than your king.

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        • #34
          Haymon and Finkel would have never allowed Wilder to fight outside of the PBC house. Even more so with Hearn and with AJ being undeniably the A-side.

          So all these silly discussions about who ducked who are now useless.

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          • #35
            They allowed Wilder to accept a $15 million deal to fight Joshua in the UK.

            If it had to be a joint PBC-DAZN broadcast, I don’t see why that’s an issue. They did a PBC-ESPN PPV for Wilder-Fury 2. So I don’t think your point is valid.

            Originally posted by maguirre View Post
            Haymon and Finkel would have never allowed Wilder to fight outside of the PBC house. Even more so with Hearn and with AJ being undeniably the A-side.

            So all these silly discussions about who ducked who are now useless.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr View Post
              Why does it matter if Wilder didn’t have a tv contract with showtime or fox? He didn’t want to sign with DAZN and it killed the Joshua fight.
              Why does it matter? Ask Lou di Bella why it does. He was a free agent. Lou knows more than you. He thought it was weird why Wilder own manager didn’t seem interested in looking for the best deals for Wilder.

              In your thread you stated that Joshua “Clearly” ducked Wilder, when confronted with facts from his own team you started making excuses about percentages and not knowing what Joshua makes.

              Fact was he ducked Joshua and Whyte, he took less money and made less in those 3 fights (Fury/Breazeale/Ortiz) than he would have made in the Breazeale/Joshua 1&2 fights.

              He announced TWO unsigned fights on the EVE of Joshua/Ruiz �� because the pressure was on, AFTER Joshua went on national TV in America and putting more pressure on your KING. He celebrated AFTER Joshua lost even though it meant he lost money.

              Those are not just opinions, those are facts. That’s why everyone who used to think Joshua was the one ducking celebrated when he got destroyed by Fury, and we all hope it happens again. Because your KING is a coward. He doesn’t have the balls to fight anyone who is threat.

              He has NO CHOICE now but to fight Fury now. His shetty resume is prove of ‘tis ducker. Enjoy your thread... Am glad you got destroyed in your own thread.
              Last edited by Ray*; 06-14-2020, 02:48 PM.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr View Post
                They allowed Wilder to accept a $15 million deal to fight Joshua in the UK.
                They ducked that too 😂 They pretend as if they wanted to sign the contract. You are actually providing us with all the evidence that your KING is a ducked.

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                • #38
                  Wilder would have sent AJ's chin into outer space so they swerved
                  Last edited by Mammoth; 06-14-2020, 02:57 PM.

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                  • #39
                    Yes, he ducked $120 million. And prior to that - he ducked $15million when he was making just $2million. LMAOOO

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                    • #40
                      Again, I’m not a Wilder fan. I criticize him all the time. It’s hilarious that I get accused of being a fan of anyone I write about.

                      DiBella thought wilder should listen to the offer... and?

                      Wilder fought other people besides Joshua... Joshua fought other people besides Wilder... and?

                      Wilder announced a mandatory and a rematch with Ortiz while waiting for a rematch with Fury... and?

                      Wilder doesn’t have the balls to fight anyone, yet he’s going to fight Fury three times. LOL.

                      Just nonsense point after nonsense point to combat:

                      The fact that Joshua ran from the fight when Wilder accepted $15 million and the UK.

                      Joshua tried to make the fight a DAZN exclusive and isn’t doing that to Fury.

                      Joshua wouldn’t fight in the us for wilder but will for Fury.

                      The fact that Fury and Joshua got to a 50-50 agreement in one second.

                      Keep on spinning!!!

                      Originally posted by Ray* View Post
                      Why does it matter? Ask Lou di Bella why it does. He was a free agent. Lou knows more than you. He thought it was weird why Wilder own manager didn’t seem interested in looking for the best deals for Wilder.

                      In your thread you stated that Joshua “Clearly” ducked Wilder, when confronted with facts from his own team you started making excuses about percentages and not knowing what Joshua makes.

                      Fact was he ducked Joshua and Whyte, he took less money and made less in those 3 fights (Fury/Breazeale/Ortiz) than he would have made in the Breazeale/Joshua 1&2 fights.

                      He announced TWO unsigned fights on the EVE of Joshua/Ruiz �� because the pressure was on, AFTER Joshua went on national TV in America and putting more pressure on your KING. He celebrated AFTER Joshua lost even though it meant he lost money.

                      Those are not just opinions, those are facts. That’s why everyone who used to think Joshua was the one ducking celebrated when he got destroyed by Fury, and we all hope it happens again. Because your KING is a coward. He doesn’t have the balls to fight anyone who is threat.

                      He has NO CHOICE now but to fight Fury now. His shetty resume is prove of ‘tis ducker. Enjoy your thread... Am glad you got destroyed in your own thread.

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