Why do PAC fans say “but Manny never failed a test” but call JMM a cheat?

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  • Shadoww702
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    #41
    Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
    Manny wanted a rematch with Marquez after his KO loss. Cowards don’t want rematches after a loss like that. Marquez upon hearing that a fifth fight would require VADA testing said not even for $100M.

    There is nothing in Manny’s career to suggest he was afraid to fight Floyd or postponed the fight. Floyd ducked several fighters and never fought an elite at their best. Canelo was his easiest figh! Lol.
    You know Manny wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire???

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    • Shadoww702
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      #42
      Didn't one judge only give Pac two rounds???

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        #43
        Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
        Manny wanted a rematch with Marquez after his KO loss. Cowards don’t want rematches after a loss like that. Marquez upon hearing that a fifth fight would require VADA testing said not even for $100M.

        There is nothing in Manny’s career to suggest he was afraid to fight Floyd or postponed the fight. Floyd ducked several fighters and never fought an elite at their best. Canelo was his easiest figh! Lol.
        You’re over analyzing the situation. The point is fans don’t want to hear Pacboys cry about PEDS for Marquez.

        Think of it as cliche scenes in movies where two adversaries relinquish their pistols to a fist fight... assume Floyd was also on stuff before. One of them decided to not fight with fists... ironic isn’t?

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        • GhostofDempsey
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          #44
          Originally posted by Shadoww702
          You know Manny wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire???
          I’m not the angry one here, so I wouldn’t be on fire. You’re so angry defending athletes who don’t know or care that you exist.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Mexican Bidness
            You’re over analyzing the situation. The point is fans don’t want to hear Pacboys cry about PEDS for Marquez.

            Think of it as cliche scenes in movies where two adversaries relinquish their pistols to a fist fight... assume Floyd was also on stuff before. One of them decided to not fight with fists... ironic isn’t?
            PAC fans at least have a legit gripe. For years Floyd and his fans wrongly accused him, even today. Yet these same hypocrites gave Floyd a pass and made excuses for his IV use to mask PEDs, and JMM’s transformation at age 39.

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              #46
              Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
              PAC fans at least have a legit gripe. For years Floyd and his fans wrongly accused him, even today. Yet these same hypocrites gave Floyd a pass and made excuses for his IV use to mask PEDs, and JMM’s transformation at age 39.
              “Wrongly accused” or basically questioning the situation the same way Atlas did? Seems like you don’t want to acknowledge it. That’s just being in denial.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Mexican Bidness
                “Wrongly accused” or basically questioning the situation the same way Atlas did? Seems like you don’t want to acknowledge it. That’s just being in denial.
                Exactly!!!! Someone not wanting to take PED tests is ALWAYS going to raise eyebrows...

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                • ELPacman
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                  #48
                  Honestly, just going by 3 - 12rd fights would be enough evidence. In all 3 fights prior to the 4th, Pac ate bomb right hands from Marquez and never went down. He was never even TERRIBLY rocked. He got shaken from some of them that landed but nothing that put him on ***** street for minutes of a rd.

                  Come 4th fight, Marquez looking more ripped than ever in his career. They showed him popping speed bags on the 24/7 build up. Marquez throws a right on Pac in 3rd rd and down goes Pac. A punch he ate in the past 3 fights when Marquez was younger and actually in his prime.

                  Now the KO punch, regardless of whether it had roid power plus Pac running into it behind the shot, it was overall a nicely placed punch. I can't hate on that. Pac ran in with his hands down for whatever dumb reason. I'm sure he thought Marquez was hurt enough but basically Marquez pulled a Hatton on Pac. In the last 10 seconds he dropped the bomb when least expected.

                  With that said, as others have mentioned. When you take roids, your body falls apart badly. Marquez immediately went to shieeeet. It's like he did it just for this 1 fight to score the win of his career and then whatever happens after was who cares.

                  I also ask this. People frequently mention, if someone is on steroids, they can push and move you around easily. I've never seen 1 fight Pac was in where he pushed or manhandled anyone around in the ring.

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                  • ELPacman
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                    #49
                    Also for the record, I totally thought Marquez won the 3rd. I honestly felt it was a robbery when Pac had his hands raised. The first two fights are definitely hard to score. You can either like Pac's aggressive style plus all the knockdowns involved, or you can go with Marquez precise counter punching. The counter punching was well done, but he never tried to go after his prey which hurt him in some judge's eyes. Marquez face was a total mess after the 1st and 2nd fight so don't say that it was all Marquez.

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                      #50
                      You have to be an amazing hypocrite to believe that Marquez was juicing and never suspect Manny.

                      The fact is most manny diehards are just that, idiotic hypocrites

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