Why do PAC fans say “but Manny never failed a test” but call JMM a cheat?

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Ask Floyd, he was the one who started all the PED accusations so he could “marinate the fight for five years”.

Did Marquez ever fail a PED test?

[daggum]

Why don’t you acknowledge that boxing wasn’t ready for advanced drug testing.

Just think about that for a second....

An opposing athlete wanted testing for this particular type, random blood and urine and done by an advanced agency ala OST.

Then Pacquiao says “it’s not good to draw blood before a fight.. it hinders performance.”

So as another poster stated about gullibility... mayne you don’t understand the methods for avoiding procedures or what people say not prepared for future consequences. Pac and Arum truly thought that such drug methods would never come into play. That’s how comfortable they were doing what they were doing. That’s called being naive and who would’ve thought that Floyd would change it all. I mean he was an Olympian.

I guess denialism has its thing with anonymity... it’s practical innit

floyds testing was a sham though. we know that now. why do people still pretend like floyd was doing it to clean up boxing. it was so he could cheat and his opponents couldn't. i dont consider that a plus for boxing, more like a cautionary tale about how wealth and influence are things that should be more closely regulated otherwise everything is up for grabs to whoever has the most money and power

[Roadblock]

Floyd started the accusations. Manny never failed a test. Never got caught with an illegal IV either.

Floyd wanted credit from the press for being “smart” because he stalled the fight for five years. Take it up with him.

How did Floyd know Manny would say NO to PED testing that he had to take himself, any boxer in history would have said no problems considering the scale of the event, but Manny said no isnt that an obvious duck seeing as Manny had a lot of BS excuses for not wanting to be tested. the truth is only one Manny had a line of excuses.

How the fck could floyd possibly know he was going to say NO, after agreeing to Mannys bs 10mill weight penalties, 50/50 purse split Floyd said yes to everything, Floyd wanted the fight and youre as gullible as fck to not see through it. Even right at the end it was Floyd who went to his face and said lets fight, wtf did Manny really do to secure the fight, in order .

Refused PED testing because he said Floyd was too big I posted the video, what lame ass BS that was.

Takes the Mayweathers to court this did great for fight negotiation didnt it, and real champ would make him pay in the ring, but I guess a real champ would avenge his loses.

Tried to manipulate the testing procedure for fck sake, who the fck would do that

To give boxing the big bird he makes the likes of Rios take the same test he refused to take against Floyd.

Manny made no genuine attempt to make that fight, fking none, all Manny did was play tough guy in the media while Arum played the long game knowing Floyd would kill his goose that laid the golden egg., not once did Manny approach Floyd to make the fight, on the contrary it was Floyd that ALWAYS reached out to Manny.

Manny and Arum did not want that fight and you are as gullible as fck to think otherwise, hindsight is 20/20 you seem to see only what you want to see.

[Caxcan]

Manny was trained by a steroid cheat wtf you on about Justin Fortune still there to today.

Not only did Roach accuse Fortune of being a steroid cheat, he had also raised su****ions about Ariza when he was working for him. The situation was so heated, both men have threatened to sue Roach. They've got to sort their steroid allegations among themselves before they start pointing the fingers at anyone else.

[Gigantes]

Marquez never failed a PED test.

And Pacquiao has?

Where in my post am I saying Marquez failed a PED test? Marquez didn't fail a PED test but his body surely failed him. He was getting ready to look into talks with Cotto until he realized his knees giving out on him(from steroid use- he's never had any "knee" issues in his entire career)

Marquez hooks up with a known steroid cheat and his knees quickly give out on him and breaks his body down, a clear sign of steroid use. Pacquiao is beating prime guys and he's still fighting with no signs of breaking down. That's all you get since you're too ****** to comprehend. No need wasting anymore time with an idiot troll like you.

[ShoulderRoll]

And Pacquiao has?

Where in my post am I saying Marquez failed a PED test? Marquez didn't fail a PED test but his body surely failed him. He was getting ready to look into talks with Cotto until he realized his knees giving out on him(from steroid use- he's never had any "knee" issues in his entire career)

Marquez hooks up with a known steroid cheat and his knees quickly give out on him and breaks his body down, a clear sign of steroid use. Pacquiao is beating prime guys and he's still fighting with no signs of breaking down. That's all you get since you're too ****** to comprehend. No need wasting anymore time with an idiot troll like you.

Marquez never failed a PED test, but if you can still have su****ions about him then others can still have su****ions about Pacquiao.

[Thuglife Nelo]

floyds testing was a sham though. we know that now. why do people still pretend like floyd was doing it to clean up boxing. it was so he could cheat and his opponents couldn't. i dont consider that a plus for boxing, more like a cautionary tale about how wealth and influence are things that should be more closely regulated otherwise everything is up for grabs to whoever has the most money and power

That’s you being suckered into the narrative. That was Dan Rafael and fan trolls deflecting. Dan Rafael says Floyd wanted to change the sport, or “change the rules of the commission... and no fighter is above the rules..”

As you can see, Floyd never approached boxing to say he was going to change jack shet. He SPECIFICALLY wanted OST testing with Emmanuel Pacquiao. Deflectors like yourself and Dan created this illusion to say “oh Floyd wants to change.”

It’s not complicated. Just because the sport changed could be PARTIAL to Floyd’s credit but it would inevitably come anyways.

I even threw in Floyd in the original post to prove a point that Floyd and Marquez differed with narratives.

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Everybody knows quail eggs and urine gets you jacked!
LMAO that’s dedication

[Roadblock]

That’s you being suckered into the narrative. That was Dan Rafael and fan trolls deflecting. Dan Rafael says Floyd wanted to change the sport, or “change the rules of the commission... and no fighter is above the rules..”

As you can see, Floyd never approached boxing to say he was going to change jack shet. He SPECIFICALLY wanted OST testing with Emmanuel Pacquiao. Deflectors like yourself and Dan created this illusion to say “oh Floyd wants to change.”

It’s not complicated. Just because the sport changed could be PARTIAL to Floyd’s credit but it would inevitably come anyways.

I even threw in Floyd in the original post to prove a point that Floyd and Marquez differed with narratives.

Floyds entire reason he wanted PED testing was so he didnt have to face a juiced opponent, when he got to superstar status he had the power to request it in his fights, the reason it became so big was because Floyd became so big.

Often famous people do things that become famous because of who they become, Floyd was not the first to want extra PED tests, Tyson demanded it of Holyfield, it was because how big Floyd had gotten that the PED testing movement had arrived across boxing.

[GhostofDempsey]

How did Floyd know Manny would say NO to PED testing that he had to take himself, any boxer in history would have said no problems considering the scale of the event, but Manny said no isnt that an obvious duck seeing as Manny had a lot of BS excuses for not wanting to be tested. the truth is only one Manny had a line of excuses.

How the fck could floyd possibly know he was going to say NO, after agreeing to Mannys bs 10mill weight penalties, 50/50 purse split Floyd said yes to everything, Floyd wanted the fight and youre as gullible as fck to not see through it. Even right at the end it was Floyd who went to his face and said lets fight, wtf did Manny really do to secure the fight, in order .

Refused PED testing because he said Floyd was too big I posted the video, what lame ass BS that was.

Takes the Mayweathers to court this did great for fight negotiation didnt it, and real champ would make him pay in the ring, but I guess a real champ would avenge his loses.

Tried to manipulate the testing procedure for fck sake, who the fck would do that

To give boxing the big bird he makes the likes of Rios take the same test he refused to take against Floyd.

Manny made no genuine attempt to make that fight, fking none, all Manny did was play tough guy in the media while Arum played the long game knowing Floyd would kill his goose that laid the golden egg., not once did Manny approach Floyd to make the fight, on the contrary it was Floyd that ALWAYS reached out to Manny.

Manny and Arum did not want that fight and you are as gullible as fck to think otherwise, hindsight is 20/20 you seem to see only what you want to see.

You on Floyd’s payroll or something? Manny never ducked a fight in his life, when he lost a grueling fight he wanted rematches. Floyd navigated his career in just the opposite manner, he played it safe. Never fought an elite level fighter at their best. Timing was everything for Floyd.

Remember, it was Floyd who said he deserved credit for being smart by delaying the fight for years so it would be a bigger PPV event. He admits he dragged it out, but he did so because he waited for Manny to lose a step. I lost ten excuses Floyd made to avoid that fight for five years. The accusation was the first.

Marquez aligned himself with Heredia, a convicted drug cheat. Put on muscle weight at age 39 and gained power he never had before. His body had all the tell-tale signs of juicing. Floyd’s physique is also suspect as he aged. The illegal IV and a TUE exception two weeks after being caught tells us how corrupt and incompetent USADA is, which is why Floyd chose them from the start. What better way to convince people you fight clean then by playing in a rigged game?