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  • adrsan84
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    #61
    Originally posted by Bozo_no no
    When there's several other points made and you keep talking about the money, that's why it's beside the point.

    Taking a safer fight in Spinks to set up the bigger payday with Oscar makes sense when the payday there could be in the neighbourhood of double that with the magnitude of that fight.




    Anyway you want to look at it you were trying to downplay Spinks, and for the 3rd time now, he's at LEAST as accomplished as Margaritio if not more so. Spinks moved up to 154 and beat Karmazin on his first attempt. His resume has bigger wins on it than Margarito by a long shot.

    You can't call Spinks a poor fight based on what he did in his last outtting.



    Like I said, you keep neglecting to mention that the only way people will remember anything about 'ducking' is if Margarito goes on to make a name for himself with important and meaningfull wins. Something he hasn't done as of yet.
    you can't deny that in this sport the money is one of the most important factors and in this fight it was there.

    I'm not downplaying Spinks or his resume, in fact i'll agree that spinks has a better resume than margarito. BUT, resume's dont fight the fight, the fights are fought in the ring with the styles determining what happens. That's the only reason i don't like mayweather's decision to fight spinks, its because spinks is a boxer with VERY little power, really he has NO advantages over mayweather, you can claim size but thats very little if at all. I dont see mayweather losing this fight at all, unless he sleepwalks through it and that is very unlikely. On the other hand margarito has a size and and power advantage, which is enough to give him a shot at beating floyd, better than i can say for spinks.

    also if you take a fight because you don't want to risk a big payday at DLH, that's called a tune up, not the mega fight he has been promising all along.

    My criticism does not go at Spinks in the least bit, it's not his fault he isnt powerful or big, or that he's not as gifted at mayweather. My criticism is simply at floyd for not going after the most competitive fight, because styles make fights, we all know this.

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      #62
      Originally posted by DLT
      He doesnt even need to do all that. If he just beats one guy then people will take him seriously. If its Quintana or Williams then he may need 2 but if he beats any proven guy then he will be the man but its like all he does is sit around and wait for Floyd
      YOU SAID MARG NEEDS A MEANINGFUL FIGHT AT WELTER BEFORE HE CALLS OUT FLOYD..................


      was beating Judah a meaningful win? after Baldi beat him, a 16 to 1 underdog? or Sharmba Mitchell...who was making his debut at 147 aswell and was recently DESTROYED by Kosta. Are you serious? Do you really think those are MEANINGFUL wins? ..Please enlighten me..YES or No..

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      • Bozo_no no
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        #63
        Margarito needs to fight Paul Williams, his mandatory defense.

        Williams has been after that shot for a year, and is rated #1 in the WBO, in line for a shot at Tony's belt.

        No reason why he can't take that fight.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Bozo_no no
          Margarito needs to fight Paul Williams, his mandatory defense.

          Williams has been after that shot for a year, and is rated #1 in the WBO, in line for a shot at Tony's belt.

          No reason why he can't take that fight.
          YOU SAID MARG NEEDS A MEANINGFUL FIGHT AT WELTER BEFORE HE CALLS OUT FLOYD..................


          was beating Judah a meaningful win? after Baldi beat him, a 16 to 1 underdog? or Sharmba Mitchell...who was making his debut at 147 aswell and was recently DESTROYED by Kosta. Are you serious? Do you really think those are MEANINGFUL wins? ..Please enlighten me..YES or No..

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            #65
            Originally posted by adrsan84
            you can't deny that in this sport the money is one of the most important factors and in this fight it was there.

            I'm not downplaying Spinks or his resume, in fact i'll agree that spinks has a better resume than margarito. BUT, resume's dont fight the fight, the fights are fought in the ring with the styles determining what happens. That's the only reason i don't like mayweather's decision to fight spinks, its because spinks is a boxer with VERY little power, really he has NO advantages over mayweather, you can claim size but thats very little if at all. I dont see mayweather losing this fight at all, unless he sleepwalks through it and that is very unlikely. On the other hand margarito has a size and and power advantage, which is enough to give him a shot at beating floyd, better than i can say for spinks.

            also if you take a fight because you don't want to risk a big payday at DLH, that's called a tune up, not the mega fight he has been promising all along.

            My criticism does not go at Spinks in the least bit, it's not his fault he isnt powerful or big, or that he's not as gifted at mayweather. My criticism is simply at floyd for not going after the most competitive fight, because styles make fights, we all know this.

            You're not making any sense, because fighting Spinks for 4-6 Million and then Oscar for 10 - 15 does make a lot of sense from a money perspective.

            Yes Margarito is a tougher style than Spinks for Mayweahter, and that's why it's a safer bet as far as Money's concerned to fight Spinks (who you just admitted has a better resume than Margarito) and then Oscar.

            A select few of you can complain about not seeing the Margarito fight all you want. When Oscar vs Floyd does close to a Million PPV buys and all Margarito's done is beat Clottey, no one's going to remember any of the time you all wasted huffing and puffing for months.

            Margarito has a world of options now to increase his name, resume and drawing power. As a fan of his, that should be your big concern here.

            He should be fighting Paul Williams, his mandatory, and or Baldomir. Winning either or those fights puts him in an EXCELLENT position to fight Floyd later next year with a bigger audience and payday.

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              #66
              Originally posted by charlie31
              was beating Judah a meaningful win? after Baldi beat him, a 16 to 1 underdog? or Sharmba Mitchell...who was making his debut at 147 aswell and was recently DESTROYED by Kosta. Are you serious? Do you really think those are MEANINGFUL wins? ..Please enlighten me..YES or No..
              ANSWER THE QUESTION PLEASE
              You have to put the fights in order. Zab was the undisputed Champ. Floyd couldnt get a Hatton or Cotto fight at 140 so he decided to move up to take on the Undisputed champ but he wanted a tuneup because Zab had looked good against Spinks, 147 might be a hard weight for him, and he wanted to practice against a slick southpaw since he hadnt fought one in a long time.

              Thats why he picked Michell. If Floyd wasnt going to fight Zab then he wouldve never fought Mitchell. He thought style wise, Mitchell was easily the closest thing to Zab and was a proven vet. He beats mithcell then signs to fight Zab before the Baldy fight.

              We all know that Baldy won but most of the people still werent even buying it. I rememeber reading a million post on these boards saying how Baldy is garbage and I bet Floyd fights him now because he knows its a easy fight. Then nearly everyone said that Zab was just unfocused & B.S. all night long but he still lost a close SD and you could tell he was easily the better fighter.

              Floyd tried to get the fight with Baldy but Baldy wanted to much money so he stayed with Zab. I along with plenty of others including the haters still wanted the Zab fight because they thought that would be a much harder fight for Floyd, Zab would be focused, and Baldy was garbage.

              Now all the haters switch up after the fight and after Baldy beats Gatti but most people still thought Baldy ****** unitl the Gatti fight and everyone thought Zab just lost because he was unfocused.

              Besides, please dont try to compare any part of Floyd's career to Margarito because you only look foolish

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                #67
                Originally posted by DLT
                You have to put the fights in order. Zab was the undisputed Champ. Floyd couldnt get a Hatton or Cotto fight at 140 so he decided to move up to take on the Undisputed champ but he wanted a tuneup because Zab had looked good against Spinks, 147 might be a hard weight for him, and he wanted to practice against a slick southpaw since he hadnt fought one in a long time.

                Thats why he picked Michell. If Floyd wasnt going to fight Zab then he wouldve never fought Mitchell. He thought style wise, Mitchell was easily the closest thing to Zab and was a proven vet. He beats mithcell then signs to fight Zab before the Baldy fight.

                We all know that Baldy won but most of the people still werent even buying it. I rememeber reading a million post on these boards saying how Baldy is garbage and I bet Floyd fights him now because he knows its a easy fight. Then nearly everyone said that Zab was just unfocused & B.S. all night long but he still lost a close SD and you could tell he was easily the better fighter.

                Floyd tried to get the fight with Baldy but Baldy wanted to much money so he stayed with Zab. I along with plenty of others including the haters still wanted the Zab fight because they thought that would be a much harder fight for Floyd, Zab would be focused, and Baldy was garbage.

                Now all the haters switch up after the fight and after Baldy beats Gatti but most people still thought Baldy ****** unitl the Gatti fight and everyone thought Zab just lost because he was unfocused.

                Besides, please dont try to compare any part of Floyd's career to Margarito because you only look foolish
                ANSWER THE QUESTION PLEASE



                YES OR NO PLEASE

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                • Bozo_no no
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                  #68
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                  This message is hidden because charlie31 is on your ignore list.
                  Is anyone actually reading and or responding to this flaming idiot?

                  I can't fathom why.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Bozo_no no
                    You're not making any sense, because fighting Spinks for 4-6 Million and then Oscar for 10 - 15 does make a lot of sense from a money perspective.

                    Yes Margarito is a tougher style than Spinks for Mayweahter, and that's why it's a safer bet as far as Money's concerned to fight Spinks (who you just admitted has a better resume than Margarito) and then Oscar.

                    A select few of you can complain about not seeing the Margarito fight all you want. When Oscar vs Floyd does close to a Million PPV buys and all Margarito's done is beat Clottey, no one's going to remember any of the time you all wasted huffing and puffing for months.

                    Margarito has a world of options now to increase his name, resume and drawing power. As a fan of his, that should be your big concern here.

                    He should be fighting Paul Williams, his mandatory, and or Baldomir. Winning either or those fights puts him in an EXCELLENT position to fight Floyd later next year with a bigger audience and payday.
                    you act as if fighting margarito would have prevented hi from fighting dlh later, or somehow lessened his purse tomake the sum less, but it wouldn't, it would just mean he would make even more. that is unless you doubt he can get past margarito, which would bt the only scenario in which it would make him less money.

                    and yes i am concerned with his decision, im hoping for a baldomir fight, if not collazo if not williams, if not clottey (least of all), and i think he'll make one of those.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by charlie31
                      ANSWER THE QUESTION PLEASE



                      YES OR NO PLEASE
                      I asked you my question a million times and you have the nerve to tell me to answer yours after you never even respond when I say that Margarito needs to fight one of those guys?

                      Unlike you, Im a man so I will answer. The Mitchell fight was a tuneup & the Zab fight was meaningful because Floyd won a title.

                      You can say it wasnt legit but how legit is Margarito if he just lost and how legit is his title if the only reason why he has it was because it was vacant?

                      Anyways Floyd's career at 147 isnt as big to me as it is to you guys who cry over it because he only had 2 fights there and everyone knows that he will soon be back there again. Floyd has only been there for 2 fights while Margarito has been there his whole career and still hasnt done anything. Thats why I dont ***** about it because we all know he's not staying at 154 and we all know he will be back at 147 and having big fights.

                      Now, answer my question and stop giving Margarito a 100 outs. He has no excuse why he has been there forever and hasnt beaten anyone. Thats like Floyd having no good wins at 130

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