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  • The plunger man
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    #21
    Originally posted by denium
    There's no question mark over Fury's chin, he's proved himself to have one of the best in the division by surviving flush right hands from massive punchers like Wilder and Wlad.

    AJ on the other hand has a shaky chin, seems to get hurt very often, and when he does get hurt, has a habit of spitting out his gum shield and it takes him rounds to recover.
    when you fight bums such as seferi , pianeta , wallin and even bum squad wilder who landed 2 punches on him and had him down 2 times , Cunningham had him down , he was hurt by wallin.
    Yes he rose up from 12th round right hand from but it could easily have been a KO if another ref was in that ring but he didn’t and the rest is history.
    Both Joshua and fury have been down so both are vulnerable if hit on the chin with the right punch.

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      #22
      Originally posted by The plunger man
      when you fight bums such as seferi , pianeta , wallin and even bum squad wilder who landed 2 punches on him and had him down 2 times , Cunningham had him down , he was hurt by wallin.
      Yes he rose up from 12th round right hand from but it could easily have been a KO if another ref was in that ring but he didn’t and the rest is history.
      Both Joshua and fury have been down so both are vulnerable if hit on the chin with the right punch.
      I agree that both fighters can be hurt, but imo Fury has a more proven chin and definitely has better powers of recovery.

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        #23
        It worries me that Warren keeps talking about Hearn/AJ not wanting the fight. Makes me suspect he knows there are going to be problems making it and is already looking to put the blame on the other side.

        Hearn and Arum seem pretty optimistic though, so maybe it's just Frank having a dig at Eddie, as per usual.

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          #24
          Originally posted by The plunger man
          when you fight bums such as seferi , pianeta , wallin and even bum squad wilder who landed 2 punches on him and had him down 2 times , Cunningham had him down , he was hurt by wallin.
          Yes he rose up from 12th round right hand from but it could easily have been a KO if another ref was in that ring but he didn’t and the rest is history.
          Both Joshua and fury have been down so both are vulnerable if hit on the chin with the right punch.
          Originally posted by denium
          I agree that both fighters can be hurt, but imo Fury has a more proven chin and definitely has better powers of recovery.
          Fury definitely recovers faster than AJ after being hurt, and I think that could be a significant factor. He has also shown better stamina so far, but if AJ stays around the 235lb he weighed for the Ruiz rematch, that could benefit him and reduce the stamina gap between them.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Ant1979
            There's no better improved boxer full stop, let alone HW. He's gone from hitting himself, gassing early with flat feet and predictable (same old) combination(s) with limited power. To switch hitting at ease, moving around effortlessly on his toes and being anything but predictable with an engine Rolls Royce would be proud of and power to make any HW in the world honest.

            Cherry picking clips doesn't change any of that. You could do that to make a case against any boxer, even Mohammed Ali. The fact that he won every minute of every round against a WBC Champion in his last outing kind of supports my argument and challenges yours.
            Good post!

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              #26
              Originally posted by kafkod
              It worries me that Warren keeps talking about Hearn/AJ not wanting the fight. Makes me suspect he knows there are going to be problems making it and is already looking to put the blame on the other side.

              Hearn and Arum seem pretty optimistic though, so maybe it's just Frank having a dig at Eddie, as per usual.
              It's just Warren s*** talking to Hearn.

              Bob and MTK are the real power behind Tyson.

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                #27
                Originally posted by angkag
                You are arguing against the boxing equivalent of a flat-earther who believes dinosaurs are a conspiracy. He's not going to change his mind.
                'Flat-earther'

                Thank you for saving me some time.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by kafkod
                  It worries me that Warren keeps talking about Hearn/AJ not wanting the fight. Makes me suspect he knows there are going to be problems making it and is already looking to put the blame on the other side.

                  Hearn and Arum seem pretty optimistic though, so maybe it's just Frank having a dig at Eddie, as per usual.
                  My guess that this is the Most likely scenario.

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                    #29
                    Fury has trash technique in his punches and does not throw combinations.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by The plunger man
                      i must say he has improved leaps and bounds and is looking like the more finished article but let’s not take to much from that , his competition has been less than impressive and fighting seferi , pianeta, wallin and even poorly skilled heavyweight champion in Deontay wilder.
                      Let’s see if fury will be able to perform the same level against a fighter who has the ability to knock you out with either hand , is a great combination puncher, great timing and has shown a vast improvement t in stamina.
                      Fury vs Joshua will tell us everything we need to know about either fighter and who has really improved.
                      I completely agree, he's got a long way to go and his record for a lineal Champion is average at best. Victories over Wilder, Joshua and the Whyte would go a long way for him.

                      Was just picking up on a point that he's not over-rated just drastically improved. I remember watching the first McDermott fight live and not being impressed at all. Same old predictable combo, little to no speed and power and was gassed at the halfway point. He's unrecognisable to that fighter now.

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