Comments Thread For: Boxing Without Boxing: Vassiliy Jirov vs. James Toney - 04/26/2003

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #41
    Originally posted by _Rexy_
    Some would argue that winning a world championship and defending it 11 times is doing something as pro...
    Ok.

    Who did he beat?

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      #42
      Originally posted by champion4ever
      Ok, before I answer, now name me some of those good contemporary Cruiserweights who were fighting in the same weight division as him that he ducked and didn't fight? There were none because he was a Cruiserweight for Christ's sake.

      He fought in one of the weakest divisions in the sport. He had no good competition unless a Roy Jones or an Antonio Tarver would have moved up in weight to challenge him like James Toney did.
      Ok so you answered my question with a question.

      Why don’t you just tell me who he beat.

      How many Top 5-10 guys did he beat?

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        #43
        Originally posted by MulaKO
        What a classic fight
        Really displayed all of Toney’s talents
        Such a shame that Toney compromised his extraordinary skills and legacy by a lack of discipline and continual steroid use.

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          #44
          Originally posted by tokon
          Such a shame that Toney compromised his extraordinary skills and legacy by a lack of discipline and continual steroid use.

          Good point
          Like so many other’s have done

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          • The D3vil
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            #45
            Great fight that makes me awestruck of Toney's skills but also pissed off that he didn't apply himself in the way he should have.

            Imagine him ruling over 168 for years and meeting Joe Calzaghe as a young buck.

            That was a fight we were cheated out of by his lack of discipline.

            It just goes to show you how great he was that he's probably a top 10 fighter of the last 30 years even without discipline and is a bonafide hall of famer.

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              #46
              Originally posted by The D3vil
              Great fight that makes me awestruck of Toney's skills but also pissed off that he didn't apply himself in the way he should have.

              Imagine him ruling over 168 for years and meeting Joe Calzaghe as a young buck.

              That was a fight we were cheated out of by his lack of discipline.

              It just goes to show you how great he was that he's probably a top 10 fighter of the last 30 years even without discipline and is a bonafide hall of famer.
              There’s no scenario where James Toney would rule over a division years especially when Roy Jones was around who was vastly superior to him in every way.

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