How come nobody rates winky wright as an atg?

[siablo14]

He was one of my favourite fighters and one of the best in his prime. He beat Harry Simon, Vargas and Taylor and didn’t get his just due. A fighter like him shows why you need a big promoter behind you and how it helps. He didn’t have that and therefore not only got the short end of the stick with decisions but also missed out on big fights and staying busy. He never should’ve had to move up to 170 to fight Hopkins. Despite the headbutt and dirty tactics Bernard did in that fight I had it very close. I think I had it a draw and he was fighting way above his ideal weight.

Not to mention Oscar De La Fishnets avoided him like the plague. If Wright came along in today’s day and age and had an Eddie Hearn/Floyd Mayweather/Al Haymon behind him he would’ve got a lot more respect. That and people not respecting his technical style are the reasons why he doesn’t get his deserved respect but real boxing fans know he was a beast. Great boxer. Very intelligent. Very hard to beat.

The Mosley fights were good as were the Trinidad and Quartey fights. He would’ve beat De La Hoya if they fought. Oscar knew and didn’t want none of that. Lol.

Red - Nah. Winky is my favourite fighter but I scored that one for Simon. I had him beating Vargas but it was close and I think I had him beating Hopkins, can't remember.

[JK1700]

Anyone who says he lost to Vargas is disqualified from having an opinion on him. Vargas won 4 rounds max in that fight. He CLEARLY lost. That was an absolute robbery.

Anyone saying he wasn’t a great fighter obviously didn’t watch him in his prime. From 2000-2007 anyone and everyone would’ve had trouble with him. Not every great fighter has 10-15 world champions on their resume. Doesn’t mean they weren’t great fighters. He was still a brilliant fighter in his prime.

[Larry the boss]

except he did not beat Hopkins or Taylor..cant just make up wins to beef up a person Resume..and Tito was fresh out of retirement for that fight

[siablo14]

Right. I remember “The Winky Wright School of Business” comments.

He stay busy before he became prime time. He was fighting all over the world. That's how busy he was. He should have also been called the Road Warrior.

[JK1700]

Red - Nah. Winky is my favourite fighter but I scored that one for Simon. I had him beating Vargas but it was close and I think I had him beating Hopkins, can't remember.

I had it 116-113 Wright. I need to watch it again but if I remember right he was signed to a British promoter at the time and this was the last fight on his deal with him and he didn’t re-up. So that’s why he got a raw deal in that fight because Simon was signed to the same guy and they wanted to put the belt on him. I thought it was closer than Vargas but I had him winning.

Might go back and watch again. I had him beating Taylor as well. Close but a clear win I think.

[Larry the boss]

Thought Wright had the potential to be great but one of things he did was sit around and wait for paydays. He did not want to stay busy. Hard to stay sharp if you sitting around for a year waiting.

yea, he sat around for long periods of time and to make it worse he never got even 1 huge payday in terms of making sitting around worth it...unless he is just a simple guy and in that case he is set for life and took less punishment

[siablo14]

Winky Wright is clearly an all-time great and one of the best super welterweights of all time.

He was an undisputed champion. In fact, he’s the only one in the division since the start of the three belt era in the early 80s. He beat so many names, despite being avoided his whole career. He only lost to greats and was also the number two p4p fighter for a time.

Losing to Vargas when he did isn’t sickening. Vargas was a top 10 p4p boxer before the Trinidad fight and the odds in that fight were even very close. Vargas outclassed Ike Quartey, the same Quartey who many believe deserved a win or draw against De La Hoya in his only loss at that time. If the 20-0 Vargas that beat Wright was placed in today’s times, he would be the number one p4p boxer in the world and clearly have the strongest resume of anyone. Vargas-Wright was also incredibly close and I believe HBO scored it for Wright.

Lederman also scored the Hopkins fight for Winky.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Because he's not.

[siablo14]

I had it 116-113 Wright. I need to watch it again but if I remember right he was signed to a British promoter at the time and this was the last fight on his deal with him and he didn’t re-up. So that’s why he got a raw deal in that fight because Simon was signed to the same guy and they wanted to put the belt on him. I thought it was closer than Vargas but I had him winning.

Might go back and watch again. I had him beating Taylor as well. Close but a clear win I think.

I had the Taylor fight 7-5 for Winky.

[KayDub]

I had it 116-113 Wright. I need to watch it again but if I remember right he was signed to a British promoter at the time and this was the last fight on his deal with him and he didn’t re-up. So that’s why he got a raw deal in that fight because Simon was signed to the same guy and they wanted to put the belt on him. I thought it was closer than Vargas but I had him winning.

Might go back and watch again. I had him beating Taylor as well. Close but a clear win I think.

According to Dan Birmingham they won the fight but got called back out of the dressing room for some kind of discrepancy. Not sure if I didn't understand the story right but it was definitely shady.