From what I seen of him, he was pretty elusive and fast at cruiser, but his last fight at heavyweight he looked slower and didnt seem that great. IDK why if he put on weight because he could just come in the same at heavy and not be dehydrated and be like 215lbs.
Help me appreciate Usyk
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It's ****** that you ignore all of Usyk's outstanding accomplishments and focus instead on meaningless triangle theory while trying to give the impression that he was in the verge of defeat against Bellew before landing a lucky punch in the nick of time ....Comment
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Overated by whom? How have I overated him? Perhaps you can point to some of my comments?
A guy becomes undisputed and beats virtually every worthwhile name in his division then he's clearly very good by the standard of his peers which is the only objective yardstick we have. What else can he do?
If someone claims he's some kinda unbeatable transcendent superbeing then I'd say yes, they're overating him, but arguing that he's the most accomplished Cruiserweight in history is hardly going out on a huge limb, it's gonna be either Usyk or Holy anyway. Ain't such a long list of candidates.
Dudes have close fights, man, even the best find some guys who give 'em problems. You want I give you a list of top fighters who struggled with guys no one expected?
Furthermore seems that Mairis might have been going through some issues with his trainer and camp discipline around the time of the Gevor fight. If I recall right his (possibly former) trainer basically said - to paraphrase - that he'd become a bit of an asshat and that fame had gone to his head and he wasn't taking training seriously.Comment
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Who has he beaten?
Cruiserweight is the worst division in boxing.
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You’re ignoring the fact that he struggled with someone who isn’t very good and called me ****** for noticing it.
Overated by whom? How have I overated him? Perhaps you can point to some of my comments?
A guy becomes undisputed and beats virtually every worthwhile name in his division then he's clearly very good by the standard of his peers which is the only objective yardstick we have. What else can he do?
If someone claims he's some kinda unbeatable transcendent superbeing then I'd say yes, they're overating him, but arguing that he's the most accomplished Cruiserweight in history is hardly going out on a huge limb, it's gonna be either Usyk or Holy anyway. Ain't such a long list of candidates.
Dudes have close fights, man, even the best find some guys who give 'em problems. You want I give you a list of top fighters who struggled with guys no one expected?
Furthermore seems that Mairis might have been going through some issues with his trainer and camp discipline around the time of the Gevor fight. If I recall right his (possibly former) trainer basically said - to paraphrase - that he'd become a bit of an asshat and that fame had gone to his head and he wasn't taking training seriously.Comment
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In the Hunter fight they showed that Usyk hydrated to something like 201 so maybe he actually was a natural cruiser.Comment
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You just looking for a squabble fella? I called your triangle theory ******, not you. I ain't really paid enough attention to your posts to give much of an opinion on you.
And my point was that struggling with Mikaelian doesn't automatically mean that Breidis isnt any good. Noel ran Wlod close and besides as I already said either or both fights could have been off nights or poor stylistic match ups. Like I already said making hard work of a dude does not mean you ain't a good fighter and you know full well there's countless examples of this phenomenon in action.
Anyways, whatever, if you don't rate Usyk, you don't. That's your right, man, but all I'm seeing here is someone trying to rationalise a personal preference. Point me at any fighter you like and I could devise some way of diminishing their accomplishments if I was so inclined... But I ain't.
Gotta wonder what it takes to impress you though?
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You just looking for a squabble fella? I called your triangle theory ******, not you. I ain't really paid enough attention to your posts to give much of an opinion on you.
And my point was that struggling with Mikaelian doesn't automatically mean that Breidis isnt any good. Noel ran Wlod close and besides as I already said either or both fights could have been off nights or poor stylistic match ups. Like I already said making hard work of a dude does not mean you ain't a good fighter and you know full well there's countless examples of this phenomenon in action.
Anyways, whatever, if you don't rate Usyk, you don't. That's your right, man, but all I'm seeing here is someone trying to rationalise a personal preference. Point me at any fighter you like and I could devise some way of diminishing their accomplishments if I was so inclined... But I ain't.
Gotta wonder what it takes to impress you though?
Kinda come with the territory though doesn't it?
I mean, look at all the **** talking about Floyd and Mike alone.Comment
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