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  • Konstantin
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    #31
    Originally posted by Gunstar1
    Duran lost to Benitiz and never fought him again, if Benitiz can outbox Duran then PBF will def outboxes Duran.

    Duran has proven that he can't beat boxers with great skills, Leonard and Benitiz both boxer with skills beat Duran.

    This fantasy fight def favors Floyd.

    PBF by a clear UD win.
    I would have to say the same.

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    • Left2body
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      #32
      Originally posted by Gunstar1
      Duran lost to Benitiz and never fought him again, if Benitiz can outbox Duran then PBF will def outboxes Duran.

      Duran has proven that he can't beat boxers with great skills, Leonard and Benitiz both boxer with skills beat Duran.

      This fantasy fight def favors Floyd.

      PBF by a clear UD win.
      This fight was at JrMiddleWeight not at 135lbs and Benitez was the naturally bigger man just like all of Duran's opponents once he left Lightweight.

      Hagler KO'd Duran at Middleweight does that also mean that PBF can knock Duran out?

      What a man can do at one weight class does or has done to him does not automatically translate to another up in weight let alone 2 divisions up.

      You forgot to mention that SRL couldn't outbox him in there first fight. At 147 SRL had natural size advantage and was just a good a boxer as PBF and at that weight has more power than PBF has at 135. Duran couldn't be put down till middleweight by Great MW with great power, PBF would not be able to hurt Duran and Duran would stalk apply pressure and wouldn't get hit as much as Castillo because Duran is a better defensive fighter than anyone PBF has faced.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Left2body
        This fight was at JrMiddleWeight not at 135lbs and Benitez was the naturally bigger man just like all of Duran's opponents once he left Lightweight.

        Hagler KO'd Duran at Middleweight does that also mean that PBF can knock Duran out
        ?

        What a man can do at one weight class does or has done to him does not automatically translate to another up in weight let alone 2 divisions up.

        You forgot to mention that SRL couldn't outbox him in there first fight. At 147 SRL had natural size advantage and was just a good a boxer as PBF and at that weight has more power than PBF has at 135. Duran couldn't be put down till middleweight by Great MW with great power, PBF would not be able to hurt Duran and Duran would stalk apply pressure and wouldn't get hit as much as Castillo because Duran is a better defensive fighter than anyone PBF has faced.
        It was Hearns who knocked out Duran with that classic punch, not Hagler!

        Leonard choose to brawl with Duran in the first fight, also it was a very close fight & some had it for Leonard. Leonard didn't lesson to his corner in the first fight.
        When Leorand choose to box Duran in the second fight, I guess we all saw the result.

        Benitiz was not a big puncher, but he was a very good boxer who outboxed Duran, weight had nothing to dow with it.

        Duran fans should admit that Duran had problem with boxers with skills, he was not god like some of his fans think he was.

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          #34
          Yeah, I know my bad I just got the names switched in my head.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Gunstar1
            It was Hearns who knocked out Duran with that classic punch, not Hagler!

            Leonard choose to brawl with Duran in the first fight, also it was a very close fight & some had it for Leonard. Leonard didn't lesson to his corner in the first fight.
            When Leorand choose to box Duran in the second fight, I guess we all saw the result.

            Benitiz was not a big puncher, but he was a very good boxer who outboxed Duran, weight had nothing to dow with it.

            Duran fans should admit that Duran had problem with boxers with skills, he was not god like some of his fans think he was.
            Duran had the power with some boxers not all at the higher weights not at the lower weights. Similar to Hatton or Cotto being huge for 140lbs and out muscling there opponents. Similar to how Margarito is a huge WW.

            At 135lbs Duran who is excellent defensively combined with a very good beard would walk through PBF's shots (when they land) in the same manner that Baldomir walked through Gatti's shots at WW and Bernard did to DLH.

            Rememer its different having to close distance and cut off the ring on a guy naturally bigger than you and with good power than it is on a guy who can't hurt you.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Left2body
              Duran had the power with some boxers not all at the higher weights not at the lower weights. Similar to Hatton or Cotto being huge for 140lbs and out muscling there opponents. Similar to how Margarito is a huge WW.

              At 135lbs Duran who is excellent defensively combined with a very good beard would walk through PBF's shots (when they land) in the same manner that Baldomir walked through Gatti's shots at WW and Bernard did to DLH.

              Rememer its different having to close distance and cut off the ring on a guy naturally bigger than you and with good power than it is on a guy who can't hurt you.
              Will Duran can walk all he wants, but he will be getting hit all night by PBF, also PBF power was much better at 135.

              Floyd's best weight was 130 and I think at 130 he was unbeatable just like you think Duran was at 135.

              Duran was great boxer but he had problem with fighters with great skills, also Duran defense was better then his chin, Duran had a good chin but not a great one like some people believe he had, it was more of his defense.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Moschino045
                i dont think so. ken buchanan is'nt even on the same stratosphere as pbf, & he gave duran a close fight, duran had 2 lowblow him 2 get the win

                duran was great, no doubts, but pbf has the tools 2 back him up if he wanted & duran could'nt fight bein backed up

                From what i've heard buchanan was an excellant champion, who defended his title many times. Duran clearly defeated buchanan, he didn't need no low blow to win that fight. Duran just mauled buchanan that night.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Gunstar1
                  Will Duran can walk all he wants, but he will be getting hit all night by PBF, also PBF power was much better at 135.

                  Floyd's best weight was 130 and I think at 130 he was unbeatable just like you think Duran was at 135.

                  Duran was great boxer but he had problem with fighters with great skills, also Duran defense was better then his chin, Duran had a good chin but not a great one like some people believe he had, it was more of his defense.

                  LOL! Who told you that lie, Hearns? Hagler nor Barkley could even knock down Duran, even Leonard didn't do **** to Duran.

                  If a very good little fighter -jr.featherweight- in Gregorio "Goyo" Vargas can cut the ring off on Mayweather and get off repeatedly attacks on Floyd, no doubt about it that a prime Duran would corner and crush Floyd. Go and take a look at Mayweathers fight with Goyo Vargas, then imagine if the was Duran.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Gunstar1
                    Duran fans should admit that Duran had problem with boxers with skills, he was not god like some of his fans think he was.
                    All boxers have problems with other boxers with skills. And Floyd is not God either like some of his fans seem to think.

                    You do have a bit of a point though - Duran as a 21 year old was in fact beaten by DeJesus at lightweight, who was an extremely skilled boxer with great movement, and very quick hands (hmmm... kinda like someone else we know?). However, by the time of the rematch, Duran's skill had caught up with his already ultra-high aggression level, and he beat DeJesus senseless. He KO'd him again in the rubbermatch for good measure too. And Esteban De Jesus was a great, fantastically skilled lightweight with ton of heart.

                    Duran as a welter or middle was still a great boxer but he had definitely lost of lot of quickness, and was not even close to his prime anymore. So it's really dumb to use his losses to Hearns, Hagler, SRL and Benitez (all of whom were all-time greats at those weights) to diminish his greatness at lightweight. Duran was the best lightweight ever. Period.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by ferocity
                      LOL! Who told you that lie, Hearns? Hagler nor Barkley could even knock down Duran, even Leonard didn't do **** to Duran.

                      If a very good little fighter -jr.featherweight- in Gregorio "Goyo" Vargas can cut the ring off on Mayweather and get off repeatedly attacks on Floyd, no doubt about it that a prime Duran would corner and crush Floyd. Go and take a look at Mayweathers fight with Goyo Vargas, then imagine if the was Duran.
                      Esteban De Jesus knocked Duran down at 135 and he was not big puncher, I guess you don't know much about Duran, he was tough to hit cleanly, his chin was good, but it was not a great chin.

                      A fight that Floyd won every round.

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