Is it possible that Pacquiao actually beat Mayweather?

[TheMyspaceDayz]

Woah I didn't that delusional nonsense either! Like I said it's a FACT Floyd dominated Manny and won. Fact. That anger got you in this predicament. Let it go.

Where did I say Floyd didn’t win? He did and it was clear. Your reading comprehension is weak and you’re a liar. Pretty garbage poster thus far. Just my first impression though. Good luck to you in the future. Cheers.

[QueensburyRules]

More delusional nonsense All the people in your head do NOT count! Mayweather factually dominated Manny and WON. That is TRUE history

- -U herstory like U Sissyboy playing marshmallow tag.

U got a Sissyboy calendar subscription for every new year?

[sunny31]

Why are people tryin to rewrite history ,

The fight was 9-3 Mayweather , Depending how you score or how biased you are can maybe make a case for 10-2 / 8-4

scoring it 7-5 Mayweather just makes you look like a Pac d.ick rider who just trying to convince themselves it was close

Scoring it 6-6 means you honestly can’t score worth sh.itAnd either a little slow or as you’re Mom says special or just kept rewinding the rounds Pac won over and over again
Maybe a combination of the 2

If you actually watched that fight and had Pac winning then there’s a strong Possibilty you are the inspiration behind Mike Myers SNL skit where hes leashed to the playground wearing a helmet

If this fight was as close as some of you flat earthers believe ask yourself why didn’t Arum or PACs home network HBO( scored it 9-3 Mayweather ) , or any other Boxing commentator complain about the scoring or Result of the fight and just went with the tried tested and true excuse when a Popular fighter loses saying it was boring and that it was Mayweather fault

I think for the most part, people are trying to have a civilised conversation about the fight. But there are always extreme opinions.

As I said in my original post, Manny did a better job than what he is given credit for, and that is down to perceptions, preconceived ideas of what both guys do well. Manny boxed very well, Floyd in the majority of fights will take over down the stretch or at some point in the fight, start teeing off on his opponent and winning rounds by a distance, create separation...in this fight that never happened, you could argue 11 and 12 but even then he outworked Manny more than anything.

I tend to agree with your perception of the scoring but scoring doesnt always reflect on the competitiveness of a fight, I think Floyd won 5 rounds clear, Manny 3, the other 4 are open to interpretation where Floyd for me won most of them. Even if you gave them all to him, it doesnt not make it a competitive fight. I'm not a huge fan of compubox, I think it can be used as a tool but not the be all or end all...the big difference in the numbers are Floyd's jabs, but if you watch the fight he falls short or hits gloves with the majority.

I think Floyd won, but it is not the one sided whitewash that people made it out to be.

He was challenged in a way that people are not used to seeing him challenged, in a boxing, chess match. Everyone talks about Manny not being able to do anything offensively, but neither was Floyd for the most part.

[hugh grant]

I think for the most part, people are trying to have a civilised conversation about the fight. But there are always extreme opinions.

As I said in my original post, Manny did a better job than what he is given credit for, and that is down to perceptions, preconceived ideas of what both guys do well. Manny boxed very well, Floyd in the majority of fights will take over down the stretch or at some point in the fight, start teeing off on his opponent and winning rounds by a distance, create separation...in this fight that never happened, you could argue 11 and 12 but even then he outworked Manny more than anything.

I tend to agree with your perception of the scoring but scoring doesnt always reflect on the competitiveness of a fight, I think Floyd won 5 rounds clear, Manny 3, the other 4 are open to interpretation where Floyd for me won most of them. Even if you gave them all to him, it doesnt not make it a competitive fight. I'm not a huge fan of compubox, I think it can be used as a tool but not the be all or end all...the big difference in the numbers are Floyd's jabs, but if you watch the fight he falls short or hits gloves with the majority.

I think Floyd won, but it is not the one sided whitewash that people made it out to be.

He was challenged in a way that people are not used to seeing him challenged, in a boxing, chess match. Everyone talks about Manny not being able to do anything offensively, but neither was Floyd for the most part.

Your being too polite. Most who tbought Floyd win are from North america.
From my research and finding everyone outside North America had Pac winning.

In 100 years of boxing nobody seen people win fights like that doing so little. You got to hold Floyd to same standards. Floyd couldn't take that show on the road and win in others backyards or even neutral places like that. There's a reason he didn't fight abroad

Floyd s arms were active but from what anyone with eyes saw they were keep away from me punches, Pac probably didn't think they were scoring. Or maybe Pac was worried he was going to be robbed and they were counting them?

[Roadblock]

I think for the most part, people are trying to have a civilised conversation about the fight. But there are always extreme opinions.

As I said in my original post, Manny did a better job than what he is given credit for, and that is down to perceptions, preconceived ideas of what both guys do well. Manny boxed very well, Floyd in the majority of fights will take over down the stretch or at some point in the fight, start teeing off on his opponent and winning rounds by a distance, create separation...in this fight that never happened, you could argue 11 and 12 but even then he outworked Manny more than anything.

I tend to agree with your perception of the scoring but scoring doesnt always reflect on the competitiveness of a fight, I think Floyd won 5 rounds clear, Manny 3, the other 4 are open to interpretation where Floyd for me won most of them. Even if you gave them all to him, it doesnt not make it a competitive fight. I'm not a huge fan of compubox, I think it can be used as a tool but not the be all or end all...the big difference in the numbers are Floyd's jabs, but if you watch the fight he falls short or hits gloves with the majority.

I think Floyd won, but it is not the one sided whitewash that people made it out to be.

He was challenged in a way that people are not used to seeing him challenged, in a boxing, chess match. Everyone talks about Manny not being able to do anything offensively, but neither was Floyd for the most part.

Well if Manny was supposed to beat him I guess running second is commendable except for his BS excuse, the thing is Manny could not apply any pressure, he couldn't out maneuver set up or time him so he just played the part.

Jab Judah was more dangerous when he boxed Floyd, so was Mosley, Manny was not, Manny was much easier to control than a lot of guys Floyd beat, Floyd muzzled a pit bull and then took him for a walk on a lead.

Manny could have thrown caution to the wind and give it all to stop Floyd but the very first straight right counter in the first round set Manny straight for the rest of the night, Manny was very wary about rushing in on Floyd so he was fckd because there was no way he was working his way inside without catching right hands.

[sunny31]

Well if Manny was supposed to beat him I guess running second is commendable except for his BS excuse, the thing is Manny could not apply any pressure, he couldn't out maneuver set up or time him so he just played the part.

Jab Judah was more dangerous when he boxed Floyd, so was Mosley, Manny was not, Manny was much easier to control than a lot of guys Floyd beat, Floyd muzzled a pit bull and then took him for a walk on a lead.

Manny could have thrown caution to the wind and give it all to stop Floyd but the very first straight right counter in the first round set Manny straight for the rest of the night, Manny was very wary about rushing in on Floyd so he was fckd because there was no way he was working his way inside without catching right hands.

Not at all, this is exactly what I'm talking about. He actually rushed in a few times but couldn't land when he had Floyd on the ropes.

When has Manny ever been an effective pressure fighter in a fight? Has he done this throughout his career? In best career performances, was he pressuring the other guy, or were they coming to him?

You're a prime example of misconstruing what Manny is as a fighter. He is a boxer puncher who prefers fighters to step into his wheelhouse. I dont know why everyone thought Manny would be Duran in this fight. Manny fights long, he throws mostly straight.

Floyd was not at all comfortable or in any kind of comfort zone in that fight. He was ahead, he was winning, but he was never total control. If you want to see control, watch Mosley after round 6, or Judah after round 6, or Guerrero after round 6...that's what you're describing. He couldn't mount that type of offense or sustain that dominance over Manny. Floyd himself was weary of counters, so you got two guys who nullified each other, Floyd just did a better job.

Very different fights, and dumb to compare.

[Jedi Vader]

Yes, Floyd don't need to prove anything to his fans, no fighting abroad, no rematches take money and run. Let's face it, even though Pac won according to most, it was an off night with bad shoulder. Your more likely to have an off night fighting in people's backyards also with pressure of being robbed.


No wonder Floyd hasn't got respect of boxing fans and is lower tier ATG. Says he will ko pac and it's him closer to being koed. Floyd could have tried koing Pac in rematch. 2nd fight doesn't go same way. It's what you learn and work on in 8 week training camp for rematch that's what interests people. What fighter took most and learnt more from first fight.
Floyd s an enigma, we know nothing from this mysterious man

What the boxing world knows is that Floyd schooled Manny, won FOTD and retired unbeaten.

[Jedi Vader]

Your being too polite. Most who tbought Floyd win are from North america.
From my research and finding everyone outside North America had Pac winning.

In 100 years of boxing nobody seen people win fights like that doing so little. You got to hold Floyd to same standards. Floyd couldn't take that show on the road and win in others backyards or even neutral places like that. There's a reason he didn't fight abroad

Floyd s arms were active but from what anyone with eyes saw they were keep away from me punches, Pac probably didn't think they were scoring. Or maybe Pac was worried he was going to be robbed and they were counting them?

Are you suggesting that everyone in England thought Pac won?

[hugh grant]

What the boxing world knows is that Floyd schooled Manny, won FOTD and retired unbeaten.

You wouldn't bet on your mother's life that the world thinks Floyd schooled pac so stop kidding yourself. Your very aware of countless people thinking Pac won, but your explanation for it is that they are pacstains isn't it?

Floyd fans are only good at sarcasm, you never get the impression they are being serious. They'll keep saying Floyd schooled Pac to try justifying Floyd not giving rematch?

[Jedi Vader]

You wouldn't bet on your mother's life that the world thinks Floyd schooled pac so stop kidding yourself. Your very aware of countless people thinking Pac won, but your explanation for it is that they are pacstains isn't it?

Floyd fans are only good at sarcasm, you never get the impression they are being serious. They'll keep saying Floyd schooled Pac to try justifying Floyd not giving rematch?

Floyd schooled Manny. The judges scored it, the commentators called it and, most certainly, the people of England acknowledged it.