Bread man claims on Twitter that Martinez criminally ducked GGG lol

[Shape up]

Listen I’m not here to insult you but I never lied anywhere snd I never put a specific number on gggs age of his prime. Never said 37 and never said 35, what I did say is “how would you know? And This is basically the classic story of 2 boxers hitting their peaks about 10 years apart.” What does that mean? 10 years ago ggg might have been at his peak but since he never challenged himself at the age of 27, we will never know. The man wasted his peak fighting Tomato cans. You know this, I know this! Case closed

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Poll Results: Was GGG past prime by the time Canelo fought him?
Yes, GGG was considerably past his prime
BaguMka, bobby73, chirorickyp, Eldogg, ELPacman, Gideon lock, HeadShots, Keleneki, Lance98, LetOutTheCage, RJJ-94-02=GOAT, satiev1, Shape up, Simurgh, stealthradon, SUBZER0ED, Szef, tengri, Thraxox, Zoffeler
20 23.81%
Yes, but only by a little bit
10,000 Days, 4truth, BIG GUNZ, Blond Beast, boxinggod101, Boxing_1013, Boy Jones Jr., buge, chaosisme, Chuckguy, Citizen Koba, Cobra Curry, creekrat77, Dariusz, Dark night 24, DeathWish, DJS, Dyl-G, ea22, F-22 Raptor, Gamer30168, Green Trees, Heavyhands420, Highend88, hugh grant, icha, ippo, kafkod, kierlos, KillaMane26, KingOfGlory, Lomasexual, mxtali, Nash out, pepzz, Real King Kong, richardt, Robi13, roņacastro, Ryn0, Sadiqkingofko, strykr619, Summilux, tritium_arma, VatoMulatto, Vlad_, xxlefthookxx, _Maxi
48 57.14%
No, GGG was still in his prime
aboutfkntime, BodyBagz, CHOWWOKKA, Death_Adder, GGG Gloveking, Jedi Vader, jimisawesome, JohnCastellanos, JrX, just the facts, KO MX, Murcielago, omh, QueensburyRules, Shadoww702, siablo14
16 19.05%
liar, in the poll you voted GGG was in his prime, from now on you will be known as canelos little gerbil

[JohnCastellanos]

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Poll Results: Was GGG past prime by the time Canelo fought him?
Yes, GGG was considerably past his prime
BaguMka, bobby73, chirorickyp, Eldogg, ELPacman, Gideon lock, HeadShots, Keleneki, Lance98, LetOutTheCage, RJJ-94-02=GOAT, satiev1, Shape up, Simurgh, stealthradon, SUBZER0ED, Szef, tengri, Thraxox, Zoffeler
20 23.81%
Yes, but only by a little bit
10,000 Days, 4truth, BIG GUNZ, Blond Beast, boxinggod101, Boxing_1013, Boy Jones Jr., buge, chaosisme, Chuckguy, Citizen Koba, Cobra Curry, creekrat77, Dariusz, Dark night 24, DeathWish, DJS, Dyl-G, ea22, F-22 Raptor, Gamer30168, Green Trees, Heavyhands420, Highend88, hugh grant, icha, ippo, kafkod, kierlos, KillaMane26, KingOfGlory, Lomasexual, mxtali, Nash out, pepzz, Real King Kong, richardt, Robi13, roņacastro, Ryn0, Sadiqkingofko, strykr619, Summilux, tritium_arma, VatoMulatto, Vlad_, xxlefthookxx, _Maxi
48 57.14%
No, GGG was still in his prime
aboutfkntime, BodyBagz, CHOWWOKKA, Death_Adder, GGG Gloveking, Jedi Vader, jimisawesome, JohnCastellanos, JrX, just the facts, KO MX, Murcielago, omh, QueensburyRules, Shadoww702, siablo14
16 19.05%
liar, in the poll you voted GGG was in his prime, from now on you will be known as canelos little gerbil

So this is your way of admitting that I never actually said ggg was in his prime at 37 or 35 but you went and did your homework and discovered that I voted yes on a poll?

[Shape up]

So this is your way of admitting that I never actually said ggg was in his prime at 37 or 35 but you went and did your homework and discovered that I voted yes on a poll?

which actually means you did say GGG was in his prime, canelos little GERBIL

[Shadoww702]

He never said Breadman worked for Ring. His little buddy, Dougie, does.

Why did Dougie get brought up then???

[Shadoww702]

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Poll Results: Was GGG past prime by the time Canelo fought him?
Yes, GGG was considerably past his prime
BaguMka, bobby73, chirorickyp, Eldogg, ELPacman, Gideon lock, HeadShots, Keleneki, Lance98, LetOutTheCage, RJJ-94-02=GOAT, satiev1, Shape up, Simurgh, stealthradon, SUBZER0ED, Szef, tengri, Thraxox, Zoffeler
20 23.81%
Yes, but only by a little bit
10,000 Days, 4truth, BIG GUNZ, Blond Beast, boxinggod101, Boxing_1013, Boy Jones Jr., buge, chaosisme, Chuckguy, Citizen Koba, Cobra Curry, creekrat77, Dariusz, Dark night 24, DeathWish, DJS, Dyl-G, ea22, F-22 Raptor, Gamer30168, Green Trees, Heavyhands420, Highend88, hugh grant, icha, ippo, kafkod, kierlos, KillaMane26, KingOfGlory, Lomasexual, mxtali, Nash out, pepzz, Real King Kong, richardt, Robi13, roņacastro, Ryn0, Sadiqkingofko, strykr619, Summilux, tritium_arma, VatoMulatto, Vlad_, xxlefthookxx, _Maxi
48 57.14%
No, GGG was still in his prime
aboutfkntime, BodyBagz, CHOWWOKKA, Death_Adder, GGG Gloveking, Jedi Vader, jimisawesome, JohnCastellanos, JrX, just the facts, KO MX, Murcielago, omh, QueensburyRules, Shadoww702, siablo14
16 19.05%
liar, in the poll you voted GGG was in his prime, from now on you will be known as canelos little gerbil

fkn Rtard pick a God damn year when ggg was top?? Because against Brook he was no GODeater!

In fact they was tied on my card and if it was a CW at 155 Brook had a hell of a better chance WINNING

[Shadoww702]

which actually means you did say GGG was in his prime, canelos little GERBIL

Idiots like u are why ggg fans are punch on site

[Shape up]

fkn Rtard pick a God damn year when ggg was top?? Because against Brook he was no GODeater!

In fact they was tied on my card and if it was a CW at 155 Brook had a hell of a better chance WINNING

I couldn’t care less, what p1sses me off is gerbils like you and the other imbecile that literally crawl up a fighters arsehole, bag other fighters, call them cowards yet won’t or can’t see their fighters flaws, clenelo is a certified PED cheat, he has taken on opponents that shouldn’t have been in the ring with him aswell, yet you’re willing to defend anything he does, you’re a disgrace, you’re not a boxing fan, you’re a fighter fan with no logic

[Citizen Koba]

Nah. The 60-40 is what scared him.

I think regardless of the split the plan was always to fight Golovkin at 160 in 2017. I keep seeing folk mention the split as 60/40 or 55/45 but every article I saw where those numbers were referenced included the qualifier 'usually', which I found kinda curious, so I went to see what the WBC regs said:

In its sole discretion, the WBC shall subsequently determine the timing and terms of any bout between a Champion and Interim Champion to determine a sole champion in the division, provided, however, that an Interim Champion shall never be deemed a mandatory challenger, or entitled to greater share of proceeds of any purse offer beyond that of a challenger, without a specific prior written order to that effect from the WBC President or his designee.

https://wbcboxing.com/wbceng/Rules/WBCRulesandRegulationsJanuary2014.pdf

So in fact there was no 40% or 45% for Golovkin, in fact it's not even clear that he was guaranteed a regular mandatory split depending how you read the regulations and certainly no more than that. The WBC never had to make decision because they were never asked, and nor did Canelo or Oscar ever make the claim that Golovkin or Loeffler were trying to force the purse bid.

My take is quite simple, Oscar was just operating according to the plan he'd laid out in early 2015.



All the rest, the back and forth, was just smoke. Least that's the way I tend to see it. The reasons he gives for waiting are legitimate, and it ain't unusual for a big fight to marinate that long so there ain't real reason to say they were trying to 'age' Golovkin and certainly not that they were waiting for him to show vulnerabilities (cos GGG was still looking fairly unstoppable at the time the plan was made), but it also won't have escaped their notice that time was on Canelo's side.

[Citizen Koba]

Exactly, not to mention the ones that suddenly don’t believe in anyone ducking anyone. I suspect ppl don’t wanna admit that they were fooled by fake news when g was on the come up it was widely accepted that Martinez ducked golovkin.

I believe I'm the only poster talks regularly about the idea of 'ducking' being basically absurd - least the way it's used on NSB - quite aside from the fact that no-one uses it consistently anyway. Am I correct in thinking you're refering to me here? :thinking;

Cos this sure as hell ain't something 'sudden' I've been saying the same for probably 5 years now, and I've been saying that Sergio shouldn't be criticised for not fighting Golovkin for at least as long maybe longer... but then I was a fan Maravilla's before I was a fan of GGG so..

[JohnCastellanos]

I believe I'm the only poster talks regularly about the idea of 'ducking' being basically absurd - least the way it's used on NSB - quite aside from the fact that no-one uses it consistently anyway. Am I correct in thinking you're refering to me here? :thinking;

Cos this sure as hell ain't something 'sudden' I've been saying the same for probably 5 years now, and I've been saying that Sergio shouldn't be criticised for not fighting Golovkin for at least as long maybe longer... but then I was a fan Maravilla's before I was a fan of GGG so..

Not you specifically, there’s others. Good you clarify it tho. In the end, I think we did a great job of keeping it real and exposing the nonsense. There’s ppl that just came on hear to insult the arguments and those ppl basically plead no contest in my opinion. As for the clowns that claimed I was lying they proved to be complete morons who deserve to be blocked. Any last thoughts KOBA?