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  • #51
    Taking into account their performance in each fight.

    Pac.

    1. Cotto
    2. Barrera 1
    3. Marquez 2

    Was really tempted to put Thurman in their based on Manny’s advanced age.

    Floyd.

    1. Canelo
    2. Corrales
    3. Pacquiao

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    • #52
      Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post
      But continuing to bring up 155 makes no sense here. Canelo was NOT fighting at 155 at that time. He was making 154 and was a .5 pound under that limit the fight prior. Three years after the Floyd fight he made 154 again. But watching that fight, tell me how exactly you thought Canelo was drained or how the weight affected him. This is an unnecessary narrative. No one watching the fight thought Canelo was impacted much from the 152 pound limit. He simply got out boxed and his style played right in Floyd's hands. Canelo at his heart is a skilled counter puncher with very good boxing skills. But how exactly is he going to out box Floyd at mid range or from the outside when Floyd is quicker, has better reflexes and is even more skillful? It wasn't even like Canelo fought terrible or anything, just wasn't on that level.

      Canelo struggled against Floyd and Lara, two quicker boxers than him. It actually isn't all that surprising that he is doing better as he goes up the weight classes as he now has the speed/quickness advantage over every opponent.
      The “Canelo was drained” excuse is alien to me also.😂

      As you say he still fought at 154 in 2016.

      He was just outboxed by a superior fighter...

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      • #53
        Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
        The “Canelo was drained” excuse is alien to me also.😂

        As you say he still fought at 154 in 2016.

        He was just outboxed by a superior fighter...
        The worst is when some lie on Canelo's age saying he was 22 years old or 21 years old when he fought Floyd lol. Like really? You could think Canelo got better after the fight without lying on his actual age. There is no need for that.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post
          The worst is when some lie on Canelo's age saying he was 22 years old or 21 years old when he fought Floyd lol. Like really? You could think Canelo got better after the fight without lying on his actual age. There is no need for that.
          He’s definitely got better and learnt from that loss but he was far from “green” as people like to say. A unified champion with 40 plus fights is anything but a “green” fighter.

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          • #55
            Pac s shown he can beat biggest rivals more than once. Floyd not so much. Rather mysterious is Floyd unanswered questions.
            Last edited by hugh grant; 05-19-2020, 01:54 PM.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by HewJohnson View Post
              Floyd’s wins over PAC and Canelo have big asterisks. Neither in their prime.

              I’d say for a best win it would have to be an opponent close to in his prime.

              If PAC beat Floyd it would only be big due to the undefeated aspect, but lots of folks would claim that Floyd wasn’t in his prime, because neither were. But especially Manny. Manny changed completely after the Marquez KO. He became...domesticated.
              Manny also started...doing drug tests XD XD XD XD XD

              Funniest ish ever.

              Karma police arrested Manny after Marquez Hulked that boi

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              • #57
                Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post
                Oh no, if Pac beat Floyd he would have gotten full credit. The not in prime only works one way in that match up.
                Pac s got much wear and tear. More fights. Floyd beat a past prime pac. Floyd being so good defensively he should age slower.
                That's why people feel Floyd should have stepped up more weight classes. Yes, bigger guys hit harder but at least Floyd knowing he is good defensively he don't need to take so.many hits.

                Floyd fans try take credit away from Pac by saying barrera was not prime as he had wars? So by time Floyd got pac, had Pac not had much more fights than barrera, more than floyd and beat many better fights than either barrera and floyd?
                Moral of story, Floyd beat past prime pac
                Last edited by hugh grant; 05-19-2020, 12:08 PM.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
                  Cotto was a good fight and a solid win but it can't compare to Corrales, Castillo, or even Mosley IMO. I mean, I'm not going to say Floyd can't think it's there for him, but as a boxing fan I'm not looking on the Cotto win and saying it's above some others Mayweather has.

                  The Alvarez win may end up being his best win, tbh. It's a win that increases in value over time.
                  yeah Floyd 3rd best win isn’t so simple

                  On one hand we have the ATG opponents with name recognition who were pass prime: ODLH, Mosley

                  Then we have guys who weren’t as great but fresher like Diego and JLC

                  hell Marquez can be a candidate for Floyd’s 3rd best win

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                  • #59
                    My revised list for Floyd

                    Alvarez
                    manny
                    MARQUEZ

                    Yeah Juan rushed to 147. But Floyd dominated this great fighter like no one ever has.

                    Marquez had his greatest career victory 3 years later when he ko’d Floyd’s good friend manny, who is a highly ranked ATG

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post
                      The worst is when some lie on Canelo's age saying he was 22 years old or 21 years old when he fought Floyd lol. Like really? You could think Canelo got better after the fight without lying on his actual age. There is no need for that.
                      Alvarez basically entered his prime either right before or right after the Mayweather fight. Anyone pretending he was far from his best or anything is flat out wrong. It's not like he's some remarkably different fighter today.

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