Proof that under zero circumstances did Martinez duck ggg. Nopal smoke session

[JohnCastellanos]

Me neither, but I had no idea you were on here. I'm Ducck, maybe you've seen me on YT

Maybe bro, what are your go to channels so I can hit you up. Oh yeah I do remember you! RJJ on your avatar. Wassup bro

[LetOutTheCage]

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Lol very appropriate

[JohnCastellanos]

I didnt provide an alternative angle because I don't think Martinez ducked GGG and I'm saying that as a GGG fan.

I'm not a hypocrite with low IQ who contradicts himself daily like someone else I know, ahem, you.

The fact is, you seem to think your opinions = fact and that's completely false.

The WBA regular title is a fake title? Lmfao. I guess anyone who was the champ pre 2010 was a fake champ too.

Let me ask, do you know why the WBA created a super title? To protect Felix Strum from GGG who was at the time under the same promotion.

That is a fact. The fact holds so true that's exactly why GGG left Germany for the US.

You think GGG was afraid of pillowfist Sergio? In the same breath you claim that Sergio didnt duck GGG you claim GGG ducked Sergio, LMFAO. You dont even know your damn history and you wanna talk about facts?



Too ****ing funny.

You also contradict yourself by saying



Let me guess, you're also one of those guys who proclaims loudly that GGG also ducked Ward right? Even though in 2013 Ward turned down the fight and in 2015....and I QUOTE YOU



Did you like what I did? Let me ask what LOW IQ guy like you pretend to act so smart?

Wasnt it 2012 too that GGG said anyone from 154-168. Did Sergio come calling for GGG?

Nope. It's so funny to see how GGG lives rent free. How many threads are you gonna start today?

Go fill out a butthurt report! I did my job and now when someone try’s to say Golovkin was ducked by Martinez, there will be people ready to argue. As for Cotto? Golovkin is doing the exact same thing Cotto did, nobody ever takes that kind of thing serious when the other guy does the same thing. That’s all!

[R-Hand Southpaw]

Go fill out a butthurt report! I did my job and now when someone try’s to say Golovkin was ducked by Martinez, there will be people ready to argue. As for Cotto? Golovkin is doing the exact same thing Cotto did, nobody ever takes that kind of thing serious when the other guy does the same thing. That’s all!

You get paid to do this job or you only get paid in dream dollars?

Lmfao.

I dont remember GGG paying anyone 3 million to step aside.

I like how all of your facts went right out the window. It's so bad you cant even defend your "facts".

Guess if GGG did the same thing as Cotto and GGG is a hypejob afraid to face any challenges Cotto must be worse eh?

You keep only ****ing contradicting yourself its damn hilarious.

[aboutfkntime]

Ahem.

Before I go let me ask.

What gives an old **** loser like you who doesnt and cant even score fights any credibility when it comes to talking about boxing?

That's right.

You dont score fights but you think you know it all huh? And you're also too afraid to go on record so yeah, shut your ****ing mouth.

I have been on the record... for YEARS

I wrote part of that record LMAO

I may have gone in a little hard, but I get sick of you muppets throwing BETTER fighters under a bus to somehow elevate Golovkin

[JohnCastellanos]

You get paid to do this job or you only get paid in dream dollars?

Lmfao.

I dont remember GGG paying anyone 3 million to step aside.

I like how all of your facts went right out the window. It's so bad you cant even defend your "facts".

Guess if GGG did the same thing as Cotto and GGG is a hypejob afraid to face any challenges Cotto must be worse eh?

You keep only ****ing contradicting yourself its damn hilarious.

Cotto had a much more profitable opportunity with Canelo, Cotto asked GGG if he’d be willing step aside for some money. GGG coulda said “No!” Let’s fight and coulda ended up fighting or having Cottos title one way or the other. GGG opted to take the money because he also knew a fight vs Canelo would come soon. How is paying someone step aside money so you don’t have to fight them any different from Vacating or being stripped of a belt because you refuse to fight someone. I guarantee you GGG would have jumped at the chance to pay derachenko stepaside money but who knows he is known for his thriftiness! Just saying it’s the same thing because in the end both GGG and Cotto duck someone dangerous for a more lucrative deal. This isn’t a big deal but can we agree on something or are you just gonna pretend I’m ******?

[R-Hand Southpaw]

Cotto had a much more profitable opportunity with Canelo, Cotto asked GGG if he’d be willing step aside for some money. GGG coulda said “No!” Let’s fight and coulda ended up fighting or having Cottos title one way or the other. GGG opted to take the money because he also knew a fight vs Canelo would come soon. How is paying someone step aside money so you don’t have to fight them any different from Vacating or being stripped of a belt because you refuse to fight someone. I guarantee you GGG would have jumped at the chance to pay derachenko stepaside money but who knows he is known for his thriftiness! Just saying it’s the same thing because in the end both GGG and Cotto duck someone dangerous for a more lucrative deal. This isn’t a big deal but can we agree on something or are you just gonna pretend I’m ******?

I dont need to pretend you're LOW IQ when it's the truth.

Imagine if GGG said no to Cotto and didnt step aside.

What do you think a hater like you would say? THE SAME EXACT THINGS YOU'VE BEEN SAYING

Oh, GGG didnt earn that title, he just fought nobodies for a paper title. Did you just not say that? Because I'm pretty damn sure you did.

Another contradiction.

****** is when you use any point with or without context to support your argument. What do you keep doing? Consistently contradicting yourself.

What happened when he said no to Canelos Canelos demands once Canelo won? CANELO DROPPED THE BELT. You dont think Cotto would have done the exact same ****?

The difference between GGG and cotto or even Martinez is that any without an AGENDA like you knows damn well GGG was ducked from 2012-2016.

GGG was a high risk low/low reward. Can the same be said about the people you claim GGG is ducking near the end of his career?

Was Cotto the best MW?
Was Martinez the best MW?

NO.

Let's use your own damn logic. If GGG is a fake champ who didnt win real belts what does that make Andrade and Charlo? Those big bad boys who beat WHO again for those belts?

Because I'm damn sure they have worse resumes than GGG and I know how much you love GGGs resume.

GGG in the eyes of the majority is 2-0 against Canelo, who you beleive is the best MW. Officially he is 0-1-1 and was virtually dead even with Canelo after 24 rounds.

Let's ask, who is better, Canelo or Derevychanko?

[JohnCastellanos]

I dont need to pretend you're LOW IQ when it's the truth.

Imagine if GGG said no to Cotto and didnt step aside.

What do you think a hater like you would say? THE SAME EXACT THINGS YOU'VE BEEN SAYING

Oh, GGG didnt earn that title, he just fought nobodies for a paper title. Did you just not say that? Because I'm pretty damn sure you did.

Another contradiction.

****** is when you use any point with or without context to support your argument. What do you keep doing? Consistently contradicting yourself.

What happened when he said no to Canelos Canelos demands once Canelo won? CANELO DROPPED THE BELT. You dont think Cotto would have done the exact same ****?

The difference between GGG and cotto or even Martinez is that any without an AGENDA like you knows damn well GGG was ducked from 2012-2016.

GGG was a high risk low/low reward. Can the same be said about the people you claim GGG is ducking near the end of his career?

Was Cotto the best MW?
Was Martinez the best MW?

NO.

Let's use your own damn logic. If GGG is a fake champ who didnt win real belts what does that make Andrade and Charlo? Those big bad boys who beat WHO again for those belts?

Because I'm damn sure they have worse resumes than GGG and I know how much you love GGGs resume.

GGG in the eyes of the majority is 2-0 against Canelo, who you beleive is the best MW. Officially he is 0-1-1 and was virtually dead even with Canelo after 24 rounds.

Let's ask, who is better, Canelo or Derevychanko?

When arguing specific points let’s go one at a time man you had the chance to debate me on gggs paper champ status but that a couple arguments ago. You can’t just bring up my other arguments for this argument because I’m not debating gggs wba paper champ status anymore. Stop moving the goal post remember I was responding to you specifically about step aside, vacating and being stripped. One at a time let’s address this and then move on. And for the record Cotto was not a nobody he was the actual lineal and WBC champ and he ggg could have beaten Cotto took the status and the Canelo fight was gonna come. I’m sure even a hater like me respects that more than only beating one actual champ at middleweight

[R-Hand Southpaw]

When arguing specific points let’s go one at a time man you had the chance to debate me on gggs paper champ status but that a couple arguments ago. You can’t just bring up my other arguments for this argument because I’m not debating gggs wba paper champ status anymore. Stop moving the goal post remember I was responding to you specifically about step aside, vacating and being stripped. One at a time let’s address this and then move on. And for the record Cotto was not a nobody he was the actual lineal and WBC champ and he ggg could have beaten Cotto took the status and the Canelo fight was gonna come. I’m sure even a hater like me respects that more than only beating one actual champ at middleweight

Please talk only one point at a time? Lmfao. Not smart enough to comprehend more than one thing at a time?

You state one "fact" and I'll refute that "fact" with 3 different arguments that render your "fact" moot. Is that too much? Like this.

You claim GGG is a paper champ because he couldnt secure fights with any title holders and only waited until the title became vacant to fight for it. THAT'S FALSE

But you're too ****** to see your own hater agenda blinded you because you also admit that Martinez AND Cotto didnt want to fight GGG because "financial reasons".

You also try to claim GGG ducked Martinez but again refer to your own contradiction I pointed out above.

You also dont seem to know your history and seem to ignore GGGs problems with universum and why that WBA super belt was created in the first place.

So already THREE times GGG got screwed in just this post.

Want FOUR? Daniel Gaele is stripped of his belt because he didnt want to fight mandatory challenger GGG.

Then you also forget he couldnt "win" against champs when he held the majority of the majority belts from 2012-2016.

Did you also forget that Canelo dropped the WBC belt too?

Of course you dont want to talk about that point anymore. I wonder why that is? Could it be you were completely ****ing wrong?

I asked you, who is better? Derevychanko or Canelo? Why didnt you answer? Because you know damn well it's a trap and I have the response ready.

That would be the response to "stripped, vacated, etc."

Cotto wasnt a nobody but you seem to keep on pretending that he was the best 160 champion which is clearly not true. WBC champ or Lineal DOESNT MEAN BEST.

[GGG Gloveking]

GGG would have killed that frail b itch