Why are PACQUIAO fans, industry, content PAC ditched 2010 Drug Testing?

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  • Thuglife Nelo
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    #11
    Originally posted by Shape up
    Olympic testing? Really, not even remotely close to Olympic testing
    It means Pac and Floyd would surrender to an advanced anti drug agency that goes by the IOC standards. VADA didn't even exist back then, but USADA was around. All countries operate differently as well as products vary by countries.

    The truth is, Bob Arum wouldn't know what's going on in Pac's camp nor did he probably want to know. Considering Pac was a money machine for Top Rank, as a promoter, Bob would fancy any type of drug testing that goes by the original standard of simply peeing in a cup in the locker room after the fight. IOC style testing, which is something Floyd did back in the 96 games. What's wrong with asking for random blood and urine under WADA's banned substance list? Since these multi million dollar fights, in reality, that's a scary and risky situation since Bob wouldn't know what's going on in Pac's camp... the Olympic level testing is a scary thought since the methods are advanced... more advanced than what traditional testing was about before 2011..
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    • Shape up
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      #12
      Originally posted by Uncle Al..varez
      It means Pac and Floyd would surrender to an advanced anti drug agency that goes by the IOC standards. VADA didn't even exist back then, but USADA was around. All countries operate differently as well as products vary by countries.

      The truth is, Bob Arum wouldn't know what's going on in Pac's camp nor did he probably want to know. Considering Pac was a money machine for Top Rank, as a promoter, Bob would fancy any type of drug testing that goes by the original standard of simply peeing in a cup in the locker room after the fight. IOC style testing, which is something Floyd did back in the 96 games. What's wrong with asking for random blood and urine under WADA's banned substance list? Since these multi million dollar fights, in reality, that's a scary and risky situation since Bob wouldn't know what's going on in Pac's camp... the Olympic level testing is a scary thought since the methods are advanced... more advanced than what traditional testing was about before 2011..
      Under Olympic testing, Floyd would have had an immediate ban for the IV, no hope of a tue of any description, go and read the contract they had and the out that was written into the contract, it wasn’t worth the paper it was written on

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      • Thuglife Nelo
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        #13
        Originally posted by Shape up
        Under Olympic testing, Floyd would have had an immediate ban for the IV, no hope of a tue of any description, go and read the contract they had and the out that was written into the contract, it wasn’t worth the paper it was written on
        what IV? Don't confuse 2015 with 2010. go and read? post the contract here.

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        • Shape up
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          #14
          Originally posted by Uncle Al..varez
          what IV? Don't confuse 2015 with 2010. go and read? post the contract here.
          Simple point made, in the olympics the IOC hires WADA, not the athletes, Floyd hired USADA, not the commission, not the sanctioning body, so why would they bite the hand that feeds them, the USADA contract was for show, nothing more nothing less, you think you know about this subject, a couple of us argued this very topic for about 400 pages on a thread already and you JNR haven’t even sighted the contract, you’re miles behind

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            #15
            and canelo got popped twice with a dirty test. talk about that instead.

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            • Thuglife Nelo
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              #16
              Originally posted by Shape up
              Simple point made, in the olympics the IOC hires WADA, not the athletes, Floyd hired USADA, not the commission, not the sanctioning body, so why would they bite the hand that feeds them, the USADA contract was for show, nothing more nothing less, you think you know about this subject, a couple of us argued this very topic for about 400 pages on a thread already and you JNR haven’t even sighted the contract, you’re miles behind
              lol

              you're not making any sense out of this. commission based testing was never an EXCLUSIVE rule in boxing. commission based testing was a practicality for promoters, not that commissions had a RULE that only they could do testing. You're not even getting the point, commission based testing had NO ADVANCED ANTI DOPING protocols adhering to the WADA rules.

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                #17
                Manny fans are legitimately conspiracy theorists. They cant have a debate because they cant stay on any single topic long enough to debate. And they keep bringing up random events that may or may not have happened and just use what the CIA term "fire hose" arguing. Fire hose arguing is where a person never stops saying things, repeatedly changing topics, and never stay on one point long enough to reflect whether they correctly understand the event.

                For reference Donald Trump uses fire hose tactics in debates and pretty much every interview/press conference. That's why he never makes sense and fact checkers regularly find he either lies or is flat out wrong.

                In any case Manny fans are in some weird collusion that the whole world was in on a fixed Floyd fight that Manny actually won. I have no problem with rescoring fights but theres no substance there. The Horn fight couldve gone either way, sure, and the JMM fight probably involved PEDs. Yet Manny fans will say Manny is undefeated because he beat Floyd, Horn, and JMM cheated. Its literal insanity

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                • -Kev-
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                  #18
                  He did it versus a black fighter who generally was hated at the time. No one is going to rally behind someone they hate like that. Especially a black fighter.

                  Notice in 2011 vs Mosley, Pacquiao requested blood testing and his fans were all for it all of a sudden.

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                  • Shape up
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Uncle Al..varez
                    lol

                    you're not making any sense out of this. commission based testing was never an EXCLUSIVE rule in boxing. commission based testing was a practicality for promoters, not that commissions had a RULE that only they could do testing. You're not even getting the point, commission based testing had NO ADVANCED ANTI DOPING protocols adhering to the WADA rules.
                    Go and read the contract, then when you comprehend it and understand it wasn’t worth a pinch of shlt, you might realise it was all about Floyd getting an advantage, off you go Jnr

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Shape up
                      Go and read the contract, then when you comprehend it and understand it wasn’t worth a pinch of shlt, you might realise it was all about Floyd getting an advantage, off you go Jnr
                      You're lying. Nothing in the contract made the blood testing null and void. What are you even talking about???

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