Mike Tyson cruiser weight run worth while?

[_Rexy_]

He specificaly mentioned charity exhibition matches. These are like light sparring. Chavez Sr does them every now and then in his 50s. Tyson at 53 is talking about something similiar but everyone in the industry is getting excited about the potential revenue and calling out Mike. Holyfield and danny williams have already called him out. Wonder if they realize they would be "fighting" for free.

Holyfield apparently is more interested in fighting a braindead Bowe for big money......Not sure why he thinks people will pay to see that.

[QueensburyRules]

Okay bare with me here. I saw Mike’s new highlights. He’s showing excellent form and I believe he is a temperamentally different fighter (in a good way) than he ever was. As far as heavyweight he doesn’t have a chance and he’d probably get seriously hurt. But there is a different sensational path he could take. Cruiserweight.

I guarantee you Mike is walking around at 205-210 right now
I think he could easily make the cruiserweight limit. Taking the perspective of Canelo or Floyd he could take a highly defensive strategy. Sure he doesn’t fit the physical mold of those guys nor has he temperamentally fought like that. However with his excellent form and balance he is showing.. maybe could he compete at cruiserweight and win a title? I mean ffs does anyone really think he isn’t capable of beating someone like Bellew right now? Yes he is on old legs. Yes he probably has 40% of his power from his best years. But you know what? The case I am making is Mike is such an exceptionally trained athlete with such an exceptional level of craft, that I think this truly mentally and physically rejuvenated 50+ year old athlete could come back and make history again at a new division.

- -Only guarantee is U a creek rat.

[creekrat77]

Tyson drinks a lot and he smokes cigarettes now. He is not a guy who takes great care of his health today. Toward the end of his career he lost to ordinary average heavyweight McBride and was KOed by low ranked Danny Williams and that was about 16 years ago. Boxers don't get better at age 53. They are just too old to be any where near as good as they were when they were in their physical prime 23 years ago. Tyson does not have a snowball's chance in hell of doing well in either the 200 pound weight class or as a heavyweight. You really need to give up this ****** idea because it has nothing to do with reality. if you like Tyson than enjoy those highlight films of his fights long ago when he was prime. If he fights any top cruiserweight or heavyweight today he gets slaughtered.

I think everyone knows the conventional wisdom surrounding boxers regressing as they advance in age. When it comes to Mike’s downward spiral to retirement and how bad he looked, I think any objective person wouldn’t blame that solely on age. A lot of it was his temperament. The guy psychologically was a mess and gradually declined as his mental state went further and further off the deep end. My take is looking at Mike today he is mentally healthy to a degree that he never was throughout the 90s and 2000s. He is also (from what he says) training like a Trojan like he did at his peak. If we’re going to go with conventional wisdom, he’d gas out in a few rounds and have nothing on his punches. Pretty much would be a punching bag because he’s a 53 year old boxer. But maybe he isn’t your average over 53 year old boxer. Maybe he’s a lot greater than that.

[boliodogs]

I've known full well that Tysons intentions are likely exhibition bouts with head gear. Probably against Holyfield. Maybe other by gone fighters in similar age. I'm sure Jones or Toney would be game.
That doesn't really interest me though.
What I'm saying is where there's a will there's a way. Is Mike Tyson at 53 capable of doing something sensational at cruiser?

Where there is a will there's a way is a nice expression. An old sayings. But it is just fantasy and not real. No matter how much Tyson wills it he is not capable of beating any top boxer at 200 or heavyweight. He could not do it when he was about 35 and losing and getting KOed by Lewis and Danny Williams. Keep on dreaming your impossible dream of Tyson being a cruiserweight champ if it makes you feel good, It has no chance of happening and common sense should tell you that. All that Tyson will get if he returns to the pro ranks is a one sided beating. Hell, equally old Lennox Lewis would probably KO him again today.

[CasperUK]

I've known full well that Tysons intentions are likely exhibition bouts with head gear. Probably against Holyfield. Maybe other by gone fighters in similar age. I'm sure Jones or Toney would be game.
That doesn't really interest me though.
What I'm saying is where there's a will there's a way. Is Mike Tyson at 53 capable of doing something sensational at cruiser?

Not really. He's an old shot fighter with lungs filled with cannabis smoke. He maybe has 1-3 minutes in him at a certain pace.

Sure, if you stand in front of him and try and trade, he'll probably beat the brakes off you but who is going to do that?

Unless Tyson takes a **** load of EPO and every PED known to man and then turns back the clock maybe he can make it another round or so.

[Lopez_Boxing]

He specificaly mentioned charity exhibition matches. These are like light sparring. Chavez Sr does them every now and then in his 50s. Tyson at 53 is talking about something similiar but everyone in the industry is getting excited about the potential revenue and calling out Mike. Holyfield and danny williams have already called him out. Wonder if they realize they would be "fighting" for free.

Nice. Right on for clearing that up

[Blond Beast]

Hes not walking around at 205 210.He hasn't weighed that since he was a teenager fighting as an amateur heavyweight. The guy walks around at 250 to 270 out of shape and boils down to 225 at best, even in hes stitch vegan days. He'd the have to weigh in at 200lb, 15 years after he'd already lost hes stamina fighting at around 230.I dont think its strength he lacks, its the cardio. Getting down to a weight you couldn't even make in your teens is abit much to ask.

Exactly. People said Andy Ruiz had lost a bunch of weight just from a picture of him sitting on the ring apron. That lie got half way around the world before the truth even tied up its shoe laces. Ruiz said as much. No one noticed the weight Wilder put on though? Eye witnesses are unreliable. My mind boggles with the numbers sum people come up with.

[Mindgames]

Exactly. People said Andy Ruiz had lost a bunch of weight just from a picture of him sitting on the ring apron. That lie got half way around the world before the truth even tied up its shoe laces. Ruiz said as much. No one noticed the weight Wilder put on though? Eye witnesses are unreliable. My mind boggles with the numbers sum people come up with.

Yeah, i remember commenting on all that skim muscled up Ruiz nonsense at the time. They've all conveniently forgotten that haven't they. And nobody is asking how Wilder at hes age manged to put on over 20lbs of muscle from Fury 1 to Fury 2.These are the same people that will tell you that Lomechenko walks around at 200lbs lol.

[Blond Beast]

Yeah, i remember commenting on all that skim muscled up Ruiz nonsense at the time. They've all conveniently forgotten that haven't they. And nobody is asking how Wilder at hes age manged to put on over 20lbs of muscle from Fury 1 to Fury 2.These are the same people that will tell you that Lomechenko walks around at 200lbs lol.

Right. It’s too bad “weights” are such a guarded secret especially at the top level. No boxer wants u to know what they walk around at six months before a fight or even just pre camp. Sum fighters will get on the scale for fight night but a lot won’t. Fans love seeing fighters get on a legit scale at any time, cause it’s something to measure against precedent. Heck discussions or fights over weights make up a lot of posts. Now we get HWs weighing in wearing tracksuits, or sombreros etc. U can’t make a legit analysis of their physique or anything. Millions are bet on these fights, and the fighters get millions, so I think it’s disrespectful to not own up to the scale or show what physique u put together. I understand the selfish reasons why they don’t, but we should be able to demand more. Sum fighters claim another is “too big” but we’d know more if we saw all their in ring weights. What do these guys have to hide?! Plenty I guess. Heck there’s often different height listings each time a guy fights. Can we trust reach also?
Like u said there’s the fans who claim the guy they don’t like walks around at insane weights and then also puts on massive weight by ring walk, all with no proof.
Joe Rogan kept telling everyone that Alexander Vulkanovski weighed 240lbs when he played rugby. But in truth he said he was 214lbs ( joe blamed it on the accent ) at his heaviest and out of shape. Vulkanovski was probably only around 190lbs in his rugby pictures. In shape I’m sure. Still Joe showed the pics and had no problem seeing 50lbs pounds that wasent there. Drives me crazy. We don’t even get told what size ring fights are happening in anymore. Sorry for the rant, but it just sucks. It will take the fighter to change things. I’m not holding my breathe.

[creekrat77]

Yeah, i remember commenting on all that skim muscled up Ruiz nonsense at the time. They've all conveniently forgotten that haven't they. And nobody is asking how Wilder at hes age manged to put on over 20lbs of muscle from Fury 1 to Fury 2.These are the same people that will tell you that Lomechenko walks around at 200lbs lol.

For somebody with Wilder's frame and build, it isn't that unusual to see him carry 20 extra lbs within a year. Wasn't there a rumor circulating that he had the Flu coming into their first fight? Regardless, most experts thought Wilder's low weight in the first go round was astonishing. Considering he was an emaciated 213 that stands at 6'7, taking on 20lbs isn't that outlandish.