Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Hagler-Leonard, Gassiev, Ryan Garcia, More

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The Daily Bread Mailbag returns with Stephen "Breadman" Edwards tackling topics such as Marvin Hagler vs. Sugar Ray Leonard, Ryan Garcia, Murat Gassiev, favorite peak performances, Chavez Sr. vs. Taylor, and more.
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[petegrif]

"We can’t sacrifice entertainment for health."

pretty sure he meant

"We can’t sacrifice health for entertainment."

[ShoulderRoll]

Bread says that heavyweights are too big for 15 rounds.

Make them go back to 15 rounds and I guarantee that the average size of top heavyweights gets smaller, more like how they used to be in the old days.

[Nash out]

Flip a coin between Chavez and Mayweather? LMAO. Chavez was a decent B level fighter with a massively padded record, whilst Mayweather is one of/if not the best ever. He could beat Chavez SR at any age with one hand.

[Oregonian]

Flip a coin between Chavez and Mayweather? LMAO. Chavez was a decent B level fighter with a massively padded record, whilst Mayweather is one of/if not the best ever. He could beat Chavez SR at any age with one hand.

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Truer words have never been spoken. I like Bread and value his insights. He knows his shït, so to speak but man, it irks me so much when he gets drawn into mythical matchups and then calls it wrong.

Bread goes with the idea that if push comes to shove and it’s his money that he’s betting and money is more important, then he protects his money.

Chavez would not beat Floyd at any weight. Ever.

[HarvardBlue]

Aaron Pryor is my absolute favorite fighter. Call me crazy but I think he beats both Mayweather and Pacquiao.

[The D3vil]

Flip a coin between Chavez and Mayweather? LMAO. Chavez was a decent B level fighter with a massively padded record, whilst Mayweather is one of/if not the best ever. He could beat Chavez SR at any age with one hand.

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Truer words have never been spoken. I like Bread and value his insights. He knows his shït, so to speak but man, it irks me so much when he gets drawn into mythical matchups and then calls it wrong.

Bread goes with the idea that if push comes to shove and it’s his money that he’s betting and money is more important, then he protects his money.

Chavez would not beat Floyd at any weight. Ever.

You guys gotta stop drinking the TBE kool-aid.

Virtually the whole world believes Jose Luis Castillo beat Floyd at 135, so you think that Chavez, who was way better and stronger and powerful wouldn't have a chance?

Guys who can really pressure Floyd like Duran, Chavez, and Pryor would've all had a chance.

Now, I'm not saying he couldn't beat those guys, but I saw Floyd have big problems with guys like Castillo & Maidana, who didn't respect his personal space and weren't afraid to turn it into a street fight.

Aaron Pryor is my absolute favorite fighter. Call me crazy but I think he beats both Mayweather and Pacquiao.

I do too.

You gotta disrespect Floyd & not respect his personal space and Pryor was the exact type of high-energy psycho who I think wouldn't be deterred by getting countered (especially if they let him have the water bottle mixed by Panama)

Pacquiao just might be overwhelmed by the bigger and more physical Pryor

[Oregonian]

You guys gotta stop drinking the TBE kool-aid.

Virtually the whole world believes Jose Luis Castillo beat Floyd at 135, so you think that Chavez, who was way better and stronger and powerful wouldn't have a chance?

Guys who can really pressure Floyd like Duran, Chavez, and Pryor would've all had a chance.

Now, I'm not saying he couldn't beat those guys, but I saw Floyd have big problems with guys like Castillo & Maidana, who didn't respect his personal space and weren't afraid to turn it into a street fight.



I do too.

You gotta disrespect Floyd & not respect his personal space and Pryor was the exact type of high-energy psycho who I think wouldn't be deterred by getting countered (especially if they let him have the water bottle mixed by Panama)

Pacquiao just might be overwhelmed by the bigger and more physical Pryor

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Castillo and Maidana both got rematched. Why couldn’t they replicate the same “blue print” and beat Floyd the 2nd time?

Also, the “whole world”? Which world are you talking about?
Every single Filipino I have met in person or online believes that Manny beat Floyd. Manny is their world and I get the idol worshipping and I just laugh it off, what is this “whole world” you are talking about?

Marquez beat PAC three times before the KO. It’s arguable. It’s debatable. I’m not going to say the whole world.

Some fights like Oscar vs Sturm or Malignaggi vs Juan Diaz or Hatton vs Collazo amongst others can be viewed under “the whole world” prism but a lot of people had no problems with Floyd getting the nod.
I’ve watched that fight several times just so I can stand on a platform on whether to make this argument or not.

[Dasmius Shinobi]

Stephen Edwards is my Sensei for all Saturday's.

One of the most thing I like in the Daily Mailbag, is that Stephen tell his experience, advises and some secrets based of all his historical boxing knowledge, sharing with us his stories and moments.

[The D3vil]

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Castillo and Maidana both got rematched. Why couldn’t they replicate the same “blue print” and beat Floyd the 2nd time?

Also, the “whole world”? Which world are you talking about?
Every single Filipino I have met in person or online believes that Manny beat Floyd. Manny is their world and I get the idol worshipping and I just laugh it off, what is this “whole world” you are talking about?

Marquez beat PAC three times before the KO. It’s arguable. It’s debatable. I’m not going to say the whole world.

Some fights like Oscar vs Sturm or Malignaggi vs Juan Diaz or Hatton vs Collazo amongst others can be viewed under “the whole world” prism but a lot of people had no problems with Floyd getting the nod.
I’ve watched that fight several times just so I can stand on a platform on whether to make this argument or not.

I agree that Floyd be Maidana & Castillo definitively the 2nd time. No doubt there, but that doesn't change what happened in the 1st 2 fights.

Those guys are not ATG fighters and that's the difference between goodness & greatness. Duran was great enough to go up 2 weight classes & beat Sugar Ray Leonard the 2nd best WW of all-time. Floyd's not even top 5 welterweights of all-time.

Chavez at 135 was on a completely different level than Castillo. He had an alltime great chin & alltime great power.

And nobody brought up Manny Pacquiao here, so I don't know why you did.

Nobody other than devout Floyd haters & Filipinos believe Pac beat May.

Most people outside of May stans believe Castillo won the 1st fight. It's not controversial to most people. The crowd thought he lost the fight. The announcers thought he lost the fight. The HBO's scorekeeper thought he lost the fight. Most journalists had him losing the fight.

That's the difference